Gatow Museum

Gatow Museum

Postby Wissam24 on Sat 02 Sep 2017, 9:55 am

On a recent family trip to Berlin I felt I had to visit Gatow Museum. While it was a 30 minute taxi ride, it was well worth it - superb museum which really does highlight the differences in the fleets of East and West Germanies. Funny museum, totally free (I even got a free guidebook from the desk staff), everything is laid out in a funny old order, but all very well presented. It was my first time using my new 50-100mm f1.8 and 18-35mm f1.8 lenses - while my head certainly wasn't int he right mode for these new ranges, they were good fun to use.

I'd recommend this to anyone going to Berlin.

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ImageEast German L-29 Delphin and L-39 Albatros by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force Percival Pembroke by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageFrench Air Force Meteor NF11 by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageEast German Air Force MiG-21bis Fishbed by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force G.91 Gina by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force G.91 Gina by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageEast german Su-22 Fitter and MiG-23 Flogger by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force G.91 Gina by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageLightning and Flogger by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force G.91 Gina by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force T-33 Shooting Star and East German Air Force MiG-21UB Fishbed (Mongol) by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force G.91 Gina by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageWest German Air Force RF-84F Thunderflash by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageEast German Air Force Su-22 Fitter and MiG-21bis Fishbed by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageEast German MiG-23 Flogger and Su-22 Fitter by Sam Wise, on Flickr

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ImageFighters at Gatow by Sam Wise, on Flickr
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby jalfrezi on Sat 02 Sep 2017, 10:04 am

Thanks for posting, what were the hangars like, any good stuff?

The East German Mi-4 is very nice :up:
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby Wissam24 on Sat 02 Sep 2017, 10:07 am

Well only one hangar was open while we were there which was mostly the West German side of things, but it was very good (Sycamore, Magister, Fulcrum, Phantom, Tornado among others) plus exhibits.
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby jalfrezi on Sat 02 Sep 2017, 10:27 am

Wissam24 wrote:Well only one hangar was open while we were there which was mostly the West German side of things, but it was very good (Sycamore, Magister, Fulcrum, Phantom, Tornado among others) plus exhibits.


Thanks Sam, I will add it to my list!
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby aviodromefriend on Sun 03 Sep 2017, 9:13 am

Wissam24 wrote:On a recent family trip to Berlin I felt I had to visit Gatow Museum. While it was a 30 minute taxi ride, it was well worth it - superb museum which really does highlight the differences in the fleets of East and West Germanies. Funny museum, totally free (I even got a free guidebook from the desk staff), everything is laid out in a funny old order, but all very well presented. It was my first time using my new 50-100mm f1.8 and 18-35mm f1.8 lenses - while my head certainly wasn't int he right mode for these new ranges, they were good fun to use.

I'd recommend this to anyone going to Berlin.
Next time, take the U Bahn to Rathaus Spandau (U2 IIRC), and then the bus to Seekorso. A lot cheaper.

Info I got when I was there during the ILA weekend last year (source was the head of the restoration department), was that the museum was going through a complete rethink of its contents (doesn't sound good, isn't it?). It would widen its focus into all forces, not only Airforces (that is why the name Luftwaffenmuseum has been officially dropped). A lot of aircraft would go all over the country on long term loans. (At that time the 4 squadron Hunter was being prepared to go to Weeze.) I think that is why they had only one hangar open during your visit. Comparing the number of aircraft on display between 1996 and 2016, there were already notably less. (On the other hand, during that weekend they ran tours through the restoration compound and their storage site (including the Tornado prototype))
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby Wissam24 on Sun 03 Sep 2017, 9:50 am

Yes I very much got the impression that something was being reworked. Could've loved to trawl through the storage area.

Not sure why only one hangar was open as they did point out that the other one had a WWI exhibition on, so clearly it's open at the moment.
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby Blackbird on Sun 03 Sep 2017, 2:07 pm

I went in 2012 and really enjoyed it. Unfortunately the photos from my post at the time have now been removed by Boto*ucket :roll:

Thanks for the post which shows that a number of exhibits have at least moved around (and possibly removed). Without wanting to hijack your thread, here are just three from my visit. Not all bad news at it would seem that the Pembroke has been restored or repainted in the interim. Is the Hansa Jet still there?

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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby hmeasures on Sun 03 Sep 2017, 5:02 pm

Wissam24 wrote:Yes I very much got the impression that something was being reworked. Could've loved to trawl through the storage area.

Not sure why only one hangar was open as they did point out that the other one had a WWI exhibition on, so clearly it's open at the moment.


When I was there in February the second hangar for the WWI exhibition was empty/unfinished, leaving just the 1 hangar open.

Still a good museum.
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby Wissam24 on Sun 03 Sep 2017, 5:52 pm

The Hansa jet is right by the entrance now
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby wallace on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 7:12 am

One of my favourite places. I noticed the DDR helicopters are out on the grass now. They were on the apron wen I was there in July.

The hangar by the Atlantique/Sea Hawk has a handful of aircraft, a Chipmunk, a Storch and some helicopters, if I mind right. The hangar where the Rocket F-104 is located is undergoing restoration, the floor was being re-screeded while I was there.

The Tonka with the special tail was towed into the restoration hangar. Likewise I'd love to get a tour of the place.

I'd second the comments about the bus. An unlimited Zone C travel pass, about 9 Euro will work out much better than a taxi fare.
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby aviodromefriend on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 7:28 am

wallace wrote:I'd second the comments about the bus. An unlimited Zone C travel pass, about 9 Euro will work out much better than a taxi fare.
According to the Museum, Zone A-B is enough. Well, it depends on where else you want to go during your trip. For example, Schoenefeld is in Zone C, I think Potsdam is Zone C, but if you plan Gatow to be the farthest from the city-center you will get...
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Re: Gatow Museum

Postby wallace on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 8:46 am

If need be, I'll stand corrected on that one as I traveled from Schoenefeld, which is in Zone C to Gatow via Potsdam.

Bottom line is cheap as chips and good public transport, all be it with a 1km or walk from the bus top to the Airfield.

BVG have an app for the phone that's excellent for planing travel around Berlin, only failed me once and that was because of lack of a phone signal.
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