Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby donaldson1 on Mon 28 Aug 2017, 11:35 am

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Postby boff180 on Mon 28 Aug 2017, 3:26 pm

As I've just said on facebook...

I would bet money that this fence has nothing to do with bad parking by photographers.

Back in January two individuals, one a vicar, broke into the airfield and attempted to "disarm" a Typhoon (and a Hawk IIRC) due for delivery to Saudi Arabia causing quite a bit of damage.

I would bet money that this fence together with other improved security measures is a direct result of a review following this incident designed to limit the risk of a repeat attack.

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Re: Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby donaldson1 on Mon 28 Aug 2017, 7:56 pm

boff180 wrote:As I've just said on facebook...

I would bet money that this fence has nothing to do with bad parking by photographers.

Back in January two individuals, one a vicar, broke into the airfield and attempted to "disarm" a Typhoon (and a Hawk IIRC) due for delivery to Saudi Arabia causing quite a bit of damage.

I would bet money that this fence together with other improved security measures is a direct result of a review following this incident designed to limit the risk of a repeat attack.

Andy


You're most likely correct, Obviously I'm just speculating in my vid, I'm just highlighting the issue of inconsiderate parking, To be honest I thought I'd get more support regarding this issue (As I believe It's a fairly important one)
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Postby HeyfordDave111 on Mon 28 Aug 2017, 8:58 pm

Local spotters have known for the last 18 months it was happening, and it started with the abortive telephone poles put up by whoever was putting in phone lines around there, putting in poles almost on the edge of the grass by the fence.

They put in a few before BAE reminded them it was an airport and they hadn't permission to put them that close to the airport etc.

They soon came down, then dug a trench for the cables but in the wrong place, and had to put the trench almost on the road.

What surprises me is not the height, but the austere look of the fencing. This looks thick, and perhaps a bit over the top, but it's their airfield, and we have had it good for too long there on the mound.

As for the fence hangers, they have been a real problem, and I don't think anyone had a problem with steps there, as long as they didn't touch BAE's fence. The moment that started to catch on, it was going o be a problem. Add to that the parking along the fence side, which was just damn stupid, and that's not helped at all.

Just means we have to be creative now and go for approach shots from out a bit from BAE property, with a 300-500 type lens,. Not impossible, but the days of the mound and close shots of taxi and take off are now gone even from there unless you have a tall step ladder.

Not good.
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Re: Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby donaldson1 on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 1:14 pm

HeyfordDave111 wrote:Local spotters have known for the last 18 months it was happening, and it started with the abortive telephone poles put up by whoever was putting in phone lines around there, putting in poles almost on the edge of the grass by the fence.

They put in a few before BAE reminded them it was an airport and they hadn't permission to put them that close to the airport etc.

They soon came down, then dug a trench for the cables but in the wrong place, and had to put the trench almost on the road.

What surprises me is not the height, but the austere look of the fencing. This looks thick, and perhaps a bit over the top, but it's their airfield, and we have had it good for too long there on the mound.

As for the fence hangers, they have been a real problem, and I don't think anyone had a problem with steps there, as long as they didn't touch BAE's fence. The moment that started to catch on, it was going o be a problem. Add to that the parking along the fence side, which was just damn stupid, and that's not helped at all.

Just means we have to be creative now and go for approach shots from out a bit from BAE property, with a 300-500 type lens,. Not impossible, but the days of the mound and close shots of taxi and take off are now gone even from there unless you have a tall step ladder.

Not good.


Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of the issues regarding the phone lines. Fortunately It's still possible to film from the Freck side - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEKnCMd3mOw
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Re: Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby chrisward123 on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 12:09 am

I really don't see your problem!
The local people, the local businesses (one I used to work at) , BAE security, BAE Fire Department, Lancashire Police (who Yes come down regularly and sometimes stop for a brief chat) and even the pilots haven't got an issue with people including me parking on a grass verge taking up minimal space of the road.
The only issue I can see is we are getting in the way of your amazing videos? I'm sorry if we spoil your footage.
The fence is rubbish but with support of BAE we are working round it with bigger ladders with no issues.

The spotters at Warton are the nicest bunch you could ever meet, really good mates, shame you think differently, your loss. I have been going for over 10 years now and never had a problem.
Leave it to the authorities and enjoy aviation while we still can at Warton mate!

Feel free to PM me with the issues you have with the friendly people at Warton as I'm well aware you have already made a few people upset with your foul language and disregard to friendly advice.
Look forward to your reply, hopefully see you soon.

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Re: Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby donaldson1 on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 10:48 am

chrisward123 wrote:I really don't see your problem!
The local people, the local businesses (one I used to work at) , BAE security, BAE Fire Department, Lancashire Police (who Yes come down regularly and sometimes stop for a brief chat) and even the pilots haven't got an issue with people including me parking on a grass verge taking up minimal space of the road.
The only issue I can see is we are getting in the way of your amazing videos? I'm sorry if we spoil your footage.
The fence is rubbish but with support of BAE we are working round it with bigger ladders with no issues.

The spotters at Warton are the nicest bunch you could ever meet, really good mates, shame you think differently, your loss. I have been going for over 10 years now and never had a problem.
Leave it to the authorities and enjoy aviation while we still can at Warton mate!

Feel free to PM me with the issues you have with the friendly people at Warton as I'm well aware you have already made a few people upset with your foul language and disregard to friendly advice.
Look forward to your reply, hopefully see you soon.

Christian (Warton berk)


You just keep ignoring the signs dude, you'll get busted eventually!!!
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Re: Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby donaldson1 on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 10:51 am

donaldson1 wrote:
chrisward123 wrote:I really don't see your problem!
The local people, the local businesses (one I used to work at) , BAE security, BAE Fire Department, Lancashire Police (who Yes come down regularly and sometimes stop for a brief chat) and even the pilots haven't got an issue with people including me parking on a grass verge taking up minimal space of the road.
The only issue I can see is we are getting in the way of your amazing videos? I'm sorry if we spoil your footage.
The fence is rubbish but with support of BAE we are working round it with bigger ladders with no issues.

The spotters at Warton are the nicest bunch you could ever meet, really good mates, shame you think differently, your loss. I have been going for over 10 years now and never had a problem.
Leave it to the authorities and enjoy aviation while we still can at Warton mate!

Feel free to PM me with the issues you have with the friendly people at Warton as I'm well aware you have already made a few people upset with your foul language and disregard to friendly advice.
Look forward to your reply, hopefully see you soon.

Christian (Warton berk)


You just keep ignoring the signs dude, you'll get busted eventually!!!
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Re: Illegal parkers Foul up best Planespotting site in Lancs

Postby donaldson1 on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 11:13 am

donaldson1 wrote:
donaldson1 wrote:
chrisward123 wrote:I really don't see your problem!
The local people, the local businesses (one I used to work at) , BAE security, BAE Fire Department, Lancashire Police (who Yes come down regularly and sometimes stop for a brief chat) and even the pilots haven't got an issue with people including me parking on a grass verge taking up minimal space of the road.
The only issue I can see is we are getting in the way of your amazing videos? I'm sorry if we spoil your footage.
The fence is rubbish but with support of BAE we are working round it with bigger ladders with no issues.

The spotters at Warton are the nicest bunch you could ever meet, really good mates, shame you think differently, your loss. I have been going for over 10 years now and never had a problem.
Leave it to the authorities and enjoy aviation while we still can at Warton mate!

Feel free to PM me with the issues you have with the friendly people at Warton as I'm well aware you have already made a few people upset with your foul language and disregard to friendly advice.
Look forward to your reply, hopefully see you soon.

Christian (Warton berk)


You just keep ignoring the signs dude, you'll get busted eventually!!!


Not everyone who attends Warton agrees with you anyway, Read this quote made by someone else who visits the site, "As for the fence hangers, they have been a real problem, and I don't think anyone had a problem with steps there, as long as they didn't touch BAE's fence. The moment that started to catch on, it was going to be a problem. Add to that the parking along the fence side, which was just damn stupid, and that's not helped at all.".
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Postby speedbird2639 on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 1:01 pm

I would seriously doubt that any increase in security at any aviation facility has anything to do with a few chubby middle aged fence hangers - much more like to be due to the current security status within the country as a whole and more specifically incidents of people accessing bases and causing expensive to repair damage to airframes.

The impact on spotting prospects may be a consequence but I doubt it is the cause.
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Postby LN Strike Eagle on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 2:20 pm

speedbird2639 wrote:I would seriously doubt that any increase in security at any aviation facility has anything to do with a few chubby middle aged fence hangers

What about slim youngsters or obese old ones? :surrender:
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