FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Are you attending FIA 2016 as a paying customer?

Yes, public days only
11
8%
Yes, trade days only
26
19%
Yes, both public and trade days
2
1%
Yes, but on a free ticket/pass
4
3%
Not attending
93
68%
 
Total votes : 136

Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby Mictheslik on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 10:13 pm

Will be on the RAeS stand on Friday (and possibly more)...feel free to pop by!

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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby Trenchard on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 9:44 am

I last attended in the 90's and wouldn't return - crowd far to cramped, uninspired displays, and now way to expensive never mind the traffic problems.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby RAF4EVER on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:07 am

Fly over 29 June,from Schiphol,do Yeovilton on 2 July,Fairford on 9 July and Farnborough on 11 July, with rest of time spent at Heathrow and Gatwick,fly back to Schiphol on 16 July :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby john001 on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:48 am

RAF4EVER wrote:Fly over 29 June,from Schiphol,do Yeovilton on 2 July,Fairford on 9 July and Farnborough on 11 July, with rest of time spent at Heathrow and Gatwick,fly back to Schiphol on 16 July :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:



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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby RAF4EVER on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:05 am

am staying with relatives in Yeovil then
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby CJS on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:43 am

I've not enough interest in the flying display and therefore no interest in going whatsoever. Had there been more in the way of genuine star acts I might have considered it as I am actually going to see my parents that weekend who live fairly close.

But no, not this time.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby AndyXH558 on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:31 pm

havent got hubble on my camera. so its useless to me.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby effects on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:57 pm

AndyXH558 wrote:havent got hubble on my camera. so its useless to me.

This is the line up from the Tuesday 2014,
AIRBUS DA36 E-Star 2 1415 1420
AIRBUS E-Fan 1421 1426
AIRBUS A380 1428 1435
AIRBUS A350 1436 1443
AIRBUS A400M 1444 1449
ROTRON PARAJET 1456 1504
RED DEVILS 1505 1515
TRESCAL Starduster 1516 1523
BOEING F/A-18 E/F SUPER HORNET 1525 1533
TAI T129 ATAK 1535 1543
BLACK SHAPE BS100, Alenia AERMACCHI M345 & M346 1545 1600
EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON 1608 1618
BOEING P-8-A Poseidon 1620 1628
BOEING 787-9 1630 1638
Out of 14 items only 4 possibly 5 would require the new 'aeros' area. So really no hubble required.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby The Baron on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 7:33 pm

effects wrote:
AndyXH558 wrote:havent got hubble on my camera. so its useless to me.

This is the line up from the Tuesday 2014,
AIRBUS DA36 E-Star 2 1415 1420
AIRBUS E-Fan 1421 1426
AIRBUS A380 1428 1435
AIRBUS A350 1436 1443
AIRBUS A400M 1444 1449
ROTRON PARAJET 1456 1504
RED DEVILS 1505 1515
TRESCAL Starduster 1516 1523
BOEING F/A-18 E/F SUPER HORNET 1525 1533
TAI T129 ATAK 1535 1543
BLACK SHAPE BS100, Alenia AERMACCHI M345 & M346 1545 1600
EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON 1608 1618
BOEING P-8-A Poseidon 1620 1628
BOEING 787-9 1630 1638
Out of 14 items only 4 possibly 5 would require the new 'aeros' area. So really no hubble required.


And for the poor saps going over the weekend when the majority of the displays are aerobatic?
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby UKAirshowTour on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 12:46 pm

been to airshows for half the cost with much better lineups. Seen more aircraft I've not seen before at shuttleworth this year so nothing to make me get up at 4am to come all the way. And the RIAT lineup just sums up why i chose that over farnborough
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby effects on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 4:15 pm

The Baron wrote:
effects wrote:
AndyXH558 wrote:havent got hubble on my camera. so its useless to me.

This is the line up from the Tuesday 2014,
AIRBUS DA36 E-Star 2 1415 1420
AIRBUS E-Fan 1421 1426
AIRBUS A380 1428 1435
AIRBUS A350 1436 1443
AIRBUS A400M 1444 1449
ROTRON PARAJET 1456 1504
RED DEVILS 1505 1515
TRESCAL Starduster 1516 1523
BOEING F/A-18 E/F SUPER HORNET 1525 1533
TAI T129 ATAK 1535 1543
BLACK SHAPE BS100, Alenia AERMACCHI M345 & M346 1545 1600
EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON 1608 1618
BOEING P-8-A Poseidon 1620 1628
BOEING 787-9 1630 1638
Out of 14 items only 4 possibly 5 would require the new 'aeros' area. So really no hubble required.


And for the poor saps going over the weekend when the majority of the displays are aerobatic?

I think you will find it is around 50-50
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby raptor72 on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 7:59 pm

Ok I've just been through the website &can confirm that the weekend flying display is quite poor from an enthusiasts point of view,however through jo blogs eyes who's out with the kids it probably doesn't matter &will be fine. I don't think looking at the weekend show that fia are to bothered about us on here serious enthusiasts & have just plumped for a biggin Hill style airfair setup unfortunately for us. In my opinion the way ahead for the show is to offer a limited number of discounted trade day tickets for the serious enthusiast & use the weekend as a fundraising event for local charities in order to justify the prices they charge people. I think its a terrible shame that this particular event has evolved this way & prey for a change of management bring back at least some of the good times.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby effects on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 8:17 pm

raptor72 wrote:Ok I've just been through the website &can confirm that the weekend flying display is quite poor from an enthusiasts point of view,however through jo blogs eyes who's out with the kids it probably doesn't matter &will be fine. I don't think looking at the weekend show that fia are to bothered about us on here serious enthusiasts & have just plumped for a biggin Hill style airfair setup unfortunately for us. In my opinion the way ahead for the show is to offer a limited number of discounted trade day tickets for the serious enthusiast & use the weekend as a fundraising event for local charities in order to justify the prices they charge people. I think its a terrible shame that this particular event has evolved this way & prey for a change of management bring back at least some of the good times.

The thing is its a trade show not a spotterfest on Mon-Thu, the great unwashed are allowed in on Fri, Sat and Sun.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 8:39 pm

Despite the show being a pale shadow of its former self, assuming work commitments fit, I'll pop in for a trade day I think.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby G-CVIX on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 2:20 pm

I went in 2008 and it was a very poor experience. Haven't been back since.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby keithjs on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 7:03 pm

G-CVIX wrote:I went in 2008 and it was a very poor experience. Haven't been back since.


I'm fortunate enough to be able to get free trade tickets and haven't been since the show lost its way 6 years ago :sad:
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby HeyfordDave111 on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:11 am

Farnborough airshow.......... Dead but doesn't know it yet.
One big yawn fest :sleepy: since the thrust vectoring Russians at the turn of this century.

A damn shame for what was one 'the' worlds premier airshow. Wouldn't go again even with a free ticket and transport provided plus £500 spending money.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby RAF4EVER on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 12:41 pm

HeyfordDave111 wrote:Farnborough airshow.......... Dead but doesn't know it yet.
One big yawn fest :sleepy: since the thrust vectoring Russians at the turn of this century.

A damn shame for what was one 'the' worlds premier airshow. Wouldn't go again even with a free ticket and transport provided plus £500 spending money.


I would :yahoo: :rock: :lmao: :drool: :clown:: :yahoo:
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby neil_davidson2 on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 2:48 pm

I last visited FIA in 1992 and whilst the experience wasn't great it wasn't appalling either and I've been meaning to go back ever since.

This is the first year that I've been able to get a return visit in and I'll be going with an open mind.

If it's not good then I won't be attending again in the future.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby Chris IL-76 on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 3:10 pm

The cuffufle with the Russian Knights cancelling has put me off for good. Last minute.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Tue 28 Jun 2016, 9:43 am

neil_davidson2 wrote:I last visited FIA in 1992 and whilst the experience wasn't great it wasn't appalling either and I've been meaning to go back ever since.

This is the first year that I've been able to get a return visit in and I'll be going with an open mind.

If it's not good then I won't be attending again in the future.


1992 was a vintage year, probably one of the all time classics - you'll find it a very very different type of airshow these days.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby Tim N on Tue 28 Jun 2016, 11:20 am

I always have a policy of early starts for airshows but grew tired of getting parked out in the wilderness of the tank testing grounds then after a huge trek through the woods and common ,the 'reward' of a distant and high flying display.
I'd be happy to see FIA disappear if only because of the way it shunts RIAT onto the Flying Legends weekend.
Believe it or not, there are enthusiasts who like both piston aircraft and jets :roll:
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby neil_davidson2 on Wed 29 Jun 2016, 8:08 am

Wrexham Mackem wrote:
neil_davidson2 wrote:I last visited FIA in 1992 and whilst the experience wasn't great it wasn't appalling either and I've been meaning to go back ever since.

This is the first year that I've been able to get a return visit in and I'll be going with an open mind.

If it's not good then I won't be attending again in the future.


1992 was a vintage year, probably one of the all time classics - you'll find it a very very different type of airshow these days.


Thanks for the heads-up.

I remember the air activity from that last show being excellent (and I have a few grainy photos to show for it), but the overall experience being a little disappointing.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby AlexC on Tue 05 Jul 2016, 10:32 am

Haven't been since 2008. The great days of the Farnborough Air Show are long gone. Just glad that I was around to see some of them, used to be a highlight of my year.

Just read UKTopgun's comment about litter. Some years ago (can't remember the exact year) we visited on one of the public days, and the field had not been cleared of litter from the day before. I'd never seen litter like it, all sorts of food and wrapping paper all over the ground, fish and chips, bread, drink cartons etc., etc., an absolute disgrace to our country. And later on when people started leaving I noticed a car drive off revealing that they had been putting all their litter under the car all day. Completely shameful. What's wrong with us? I've never seen such behaviour or anything like it at any airshow anywhere else in the world. At Oshkosh for instance at the end of the flying display each day the commentator asks everyone to take their 'trash' home, or put it in the bins, but he doesn't need to, everybody does it as a matter of course, they don't need reminding, the whole airfield is completely devoid of litter.
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Re: FIA - straw poll of enthusiasts

Postby aceyone on Tue 05 Jul 2016, 2:21 pm

AlexC wrote:Haven't been since 2008. The great days of the Farnborough Air Show are long gone. Just glad that I was around to see some of them, used to be a highlight of my year.

Just read UKTopgun's comment about litter. Some years ago (can't remember the exact year) we visited on one of the public days, and the field had not been cleared of litter from the day before. I'd never seen litter like it, all sorts of food and wrapping paper all over the ground, fish and chips, bread, drink cartons etc., etc., an absolute disgrace to our country. And later on when people started leaving I noticed a car drive off revealing that they had been putting all their litter under the car all day. Completely shameful. What's wrong with us? I've never seen such behaviour or anything like it at any airshow anywhere else in the world. At Oshkosh for instance at the end of the flying display each day the commentator asks everyone to take their 'trash' home, or put it in the bins, but he doesn't need to, everybody does it as a matter of course, they don't need reminding, the whole airfield is completely devoid of litter.


One of my absolute pet hates is litter ,I just don't get it at all.in my younger days when I spent a good deal of time climbing/walking in Scotland and Wales and you would find litter at the tops of the hills ,bottles etc ,sometimes stuffed under rocks ,what get's me is that people will carry full, heavy bottles of drink all the way to the top and then,when the bottle were empty and relatively light ,would leave them up there ! If these morons enjoy walking in these wild places ,as they must ,why oh why do they then defile them ! Never had the same problem in Austria !
Don't know about those jets ,they spoil a very nice place
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