RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Pringles on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 1:27 pm

Paul R wrote:Only reason I mention the typhoon as haven't seen the Austrian demo yet , but yep good addition for sure

Don't think there is one this year? :dunno:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby JJC on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 1:58 pm

Pairs QRA demo always looks superb, however the Austrian solo was nothing to write home about at Ostrava last year.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby jasonT1981 on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 2:52 pm

In regards to Typhoons, who does that now leave that can send one? BAE and Saudi Arabia?
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Seahornet on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 3:15 pm

Airshowhammer wrote:I know its been done to death but what are the chances of a Lancer or B-52 in the flying? This year theres a better than zero chance right? Due to the big bash? But if we wasn't to get it this year is it likely we'll never have the days of old again? Was just curious. Didn't know where to post or ask :smile:


I'd suggest the RIAT Wishlist thread. It would be good if we could keep this thread for confirmed and 'definately probable' items.... :biggrin:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Pringles on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 3:22 pm

jasonT1981 wrote:In regards to Typhoons, who does that now leave that can send one? BAE and Saudi Arabia?

BAE only work up a display for joint Farnborough years (ie last year and 2014) so won't display one this year. There are plenty of nations that could as yet commit static Typhoons, but of the possible flying, the Spanish are "only" sending the F-18 this year and I doubt we'll see an Austrian display - the Germans don't do flying displays. Don't hold your breath on the Saudis either :roll:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby john001 on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 3:36 pm

Pringles wrote: - the Germans don't do flying displays.


Looked like one last year at Ostrava.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby RIAT Air Ops on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 3:52 pm

john001 wrote:
Pringles wrote: - the Germans don't do flying displays.


Looked like one last year at Ostrava.


That would have been a company test pilot using a German AF aircraft.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby john001 on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 3:53 pm

RIAT Air Ops wrote:
john001 wrote:
Pringles wrote: - the Germans don't do flying displays.


Looked like one last year at Ostrava.


That would have been a company test pilot using a German AF aircraft.



That'll do :smile:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm

Have we travelled back in time ?
Last time I checked, Austria hasn't been a part of Germany since the '50s
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby aviodromefriend on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 5:33 pm

RIAT Air Ops wrote:
john001 wrote:
Pringles wrote: - the Germans don't do flying displays.


Looked like one last year at Ostrava.


That would have been a company test pilot using a German AF aircraft.
Last year they had a demo flown by a Luftwaffe pilot allowed due to their 60th anniversary. At least I saw it at ILA, somehow I have a vague memory that the aircraft was on static at Fairford.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Tommy on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 6:15 pm

Pringles wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:In regards to Typhoons, who does that now leave that can send one? BAE and Saudi Arabia?

BAE only work up a display for joint Farnborough years (ie last year and 2014) so won't display one this year.


BAE Systems displayed their Typhoon at RIAT in 2011.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby RIAT Air Ops on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 6:20 pm

Tommy wrote:
Pringles wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:In regards to Typhoons, who does that now leave that can send one? BAE and Saudi Arabia?

BAE only work up a display for joint Farnborough years (ie last year and 2014) so won't display one this year.


BAE Systems displayed their Typhoon at RIAT in 2011.


and 2016 .......... :cuppa:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Spotty_Jag on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 6:20 pm

Tommy wrote:BAE Systems displayed their Typhoon at RIAT in 2011.

Only because the RAF solo display was cancelled (Op Ellamy). :tongue2:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby RIAT Air Ops on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 6:23 pm

Brevet Cable wrote:Have we travelled back in time ?
Last time I checked, Austria hasn't been a part of Germany since the '50s


Correct but do keep up, the conversation was in relation to a German demo at Ostrava last year. :wink:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Tommy on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 6:50 pm

RIAT Air Ops wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Pringles wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:In regards to Typhoons, who does that now leave that can send one? BAE and Saudi Arabia?

BAE only work up a display for joint Farnborough years (ie last year and 2014) so won't display one this year.


BAE Systems displayed their Typhoon at RIAT in 2011.


and 2016 .......... :cuppa:


Indeed - it's just that Pringles said that BAE Systems "only" work up a display in Farnborough years, and that 2011, when they performed, obvs wasn't one, which he might not have known.

And yes, Spotty_Jag, I'm well aware that the RAF didnt put on a Typhoon display that year (though I don't know whether that was the reason BAE worked one up or not - I seem to recall a lot of talk about the Indian MMRCA competition, and that France was attending with a Rafale...)
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 6:56 pm

RIAT Air Ops wrote:Correct but do keep up, the conversation was in relation to a German demo at Ostrava last year. :wink:

Only 'cos the subsequent posters didn't read Pringles' one properly :lol:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby Pringles on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 8:21 pm

Tommy wrote:Indeed - it's just that Pringles said that BAE Systems "only" work up a display in Farnborough years, and that 2011, when they performed, obvs wasn't one, which he might not have known.

And yes, Spotty_Jag, I'm well aware that the RAF didnt put on a Typhoon display that year (though I don't know whether that was the reason BAE worked one up or not - I seem to recall a lot of talk about the Indian MMRCA competition, and that France was attending with a Rafale...)

Of course you're right Tommy, that one had slipped my mind. Can anyone confirm if that the only non-Farnborough year that BAE have worked up a Typhoon display since the RAF began displaying theirs?
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby RIAT Air Ops on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 7:50 am

Tommy wrote:
RIAT Air Ops wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Pringles wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:In regards to Typhoons, who does that now leave that can send one? BAE and Saudi Arabia?

BAE only work up a display for joint Farnborough years (ie last year and 2014) so won't display one this year.


BAE Systems displayed their Typhoon at RIAT in 2011.


and 2016 .......... :cuppa:


Indeed - it's just that Pringles said that BAE Systems "only" work up a display in Farnborough years, and that 2011, when they performed, obvs wasn't one, which he might not have known.



Got you .... :cuppa:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby edhunter on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 6:53 pm

Is it just me or are the Jordanians rather late in confirming there falcons?
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby aviodromefriend on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 8:44 pm

edhunter wrote:Is it just me or are the Jordanians rather late in confirming there falcons?
Last year the RJF were confirmed at April 28, so we haven't reached the date of DBH confirming them last year. The Hercules though was confirmed at March 31, so that one is late this year. Source: http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/visiting/lookingback/looking-back-at-2016/latest-updates
P.S. just check a lot of Air Forces there just listed as invited or ongoing were actually at Fairford, Croatia, France, Canada, France, Poland, Pakistan, Australia.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby edhunter on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 4:24 pm

I'm getting a little concerned about the lack of heavy aircraft thus far confirmed for the static park, apart from the p-3 & c-130 there is a lack of heavies and I think if my memory serves me right there were a few more this time last year.
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby aviodromefriend on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 5:24 pm

edhunter wrote:I'm getting a little concerned about the lack of heavy aircraft thus far confirmed for the static park, apart from the p-3 & c-130 there is a lack of heavies and I think if my memory serves me right there were a few more this time last year.
Heavies confirmed by this time last year: Jordanian Herc, German Orion. Transall, A400M and Dutch transports that were cancelled later on. Stuation this year: Belgian Herc, German Orion and Transall As things stand, that is just one less (although I realise it is unfair to not count announcements that cancelled as we don't know if all of this year announcements will actually be there).
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby PeterR on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 10:17 am

edhunter wrote:I'm getting a little concerned about the lack of heavy aircraft thus far confirmed for the static park, apart from the p-3 & c-130 there is a lack of heavies and I think if my memory serves me right there were a few more this time last year.

I wouldn't worry just yet, plenty of countries that support the show annually who are yet to declare their hand. Sure DBH have got lots of goodies in the bag for us all... :heyhey:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby 138EAW on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 10:19 am

Looks like the RAF have just deployed the 4 Typhoon's to Romania :smile: Would be rude if Romania now don't attend :lmao:
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Re: RIAT 2017 (Discussion & Participation Thread)

Postby speedbird2639 on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 11:42 am

edhunter wrote:Is it just me or are the Jordanians rather late in confirming there falcons?


Oh don't get my hopes up. Could this finally be the year we're not 'treated' to the experience of the Falcans and their Briggs and Stratton power Extras.
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