RIAT 2018 discussion

Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby capercaillie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:14 pm

st24 wrote:
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st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby MiG_Eater on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:19 pm

Clearly the KC-390 is still on the list, but do the experts among us still think attendance is likely after the accident?
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby capercaillie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:21 pm

MiG_Eater wrote:Clearly the KC-390 is still on the list, but do the experts among us still think attendance is likely after the accident?


They have two, they want to sell it, its booked at Farnborough hence why its over here. Yes, why not?
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Tmyers123 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:24 pm

Ouragan wrote:More like they'd disassemble the Herk to bring it over in the Mi-26... :dizzy:

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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Kevyboy1979 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:34 pm

Nice to see a Spitfire added to the statics line up, would be nice to see a Hurricane added to go beside it.
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Wissam24 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:36 pm

capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Tmyers123 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:57 pm

Very nice update :up: really hoping that they line up all the Hercs, it would look magnificent! And the Atlantique 2, really hoping it doesn’t cancel as that’s an absolute gem.
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:59 pm

Wissam24 wrote:Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?

Yep : https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20180505-0
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby play it cool on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 3:02 pm

Wissam24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?


That must have been a little hairy!
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby capercaillie on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 3:06 pm

play it cool wrote:
Wissam24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?


That must have been a little hairy!


Surely that is the same incident, and must be a problem with the flaps? :joystick:
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Big Eric on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 3:10 pm

capercaillie wrote:
play it cool wrote:
Wissam24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it.


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?


That must have been a little hairy!


Surely that is the same incident, and must be a problem with the flaps? :joystick:


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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby st24 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 4:41 pm

capercaillie wrote:
play it cool wrote:
Wissam24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?


That must have been a little hairy!


Surely that is the same incident, and must be a problem with the flaps? :joystick:

Luckily didn't happen in pubic...
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Tmyers123 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 5:05 pm

st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
play it cool wrote:
Wissam24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?


That must have been a little hairy!


Surely that is the same incident, and must be a problem with the flaps? :joystick:

Luckily didn't happen in pubic...


Okay this is a bit cringe.
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby edhunter on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 5:43 pm

Just seen todays update and it is fantastic, can this years show really get any better than this? :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Airwolfhound on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 5:48 pm

edhunter wrote:Just seen todays update and it is fantastic, can this years show really get any better than this? :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:


Well, some nice blue skies, or at least a high cloud-base, would be good :-) :cool:
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby wezgulf3 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:04 pm

Regarding the KC390, Embraer only have one now, the other is almost certainly written off. PT-ZNF was the frame involved in both incidents. I would think Embraer would prefer to carry on with the rest campaign in Brazil instead of sending one to England for 10 days.

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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby RIAT Air Ops on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:16 pm

wezgulf3 wrote:Regarding the KC390, Embraer only have one now, the other is almost certainly written off. PT-ZNF was the frame involved in both incidents. I would think Embraer would prefer to carry on with the rest campaign in Brazil instead of sending one to England for 10 days.

Wes...


I have no indications whatsoever that the KC-390 will not be at Fairford in July, in fact everything is exactly the opposite and very positive.

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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Kevyboy1979 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:29 pm

RIAT Air Ops wrote:
wezgulf3 wrote:Regarding the KC390, Embraer only have one now, the other is almost certainly written off. PT-ZNF was the frame involved in both incidents. I would think Embraer would prefer to carry on with the rest campaign in Brazil instead of sending one to England for 10 days.

Wes...


I have no indications whatsoever that the KC-390 will not be at Fairford in July, in fact everything is exactly the opposite and very positive.

Tom :cuppa:


Good to hear Tom as looking forward to seeing it arrive at Fairford along with everything else :yahoo:
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Aviation94 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:30 pm

st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
play it cool wrote:
Wissam24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:
capercaillie wrote:
st24 wrote:Well if you include Brazil for the KC390 we are up to 31 nations... :dunno:


You know the rules Mr S, not allowed unless officially handed over, same as those Indian and Canadian Hawks. If it arrives as a full Brazilian, bejewelled with little stars it may be allowed. :biggrin:

Fair enough 'guvnah, I did say "if" and with it being so close to service entry; will be a close shave to include it. :tongue:


Better get back onto the KC-390, stop people waxing on about grammar. According to Wiki, service entry was expected in 2018, but with the one prototype mishap they may have to trim that back a little now. :cool:


Didn't the other prototype have a bit of a close shave as well?


That must have been a little hairy!


Surely that is the same incident, and must be a problem with the flaps? :joystick:

Luckily didn't happen in pubic...


Come on don't beat around the bush... they obviously didn't trim the plane!
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby wezgulf3 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:31 pm

RIAT Air Ops wrote:
wezgulf3 wrote:Regarding the KC390, Embraer only have one now, the other is almost certainly written off. PT-ZNF was the frame involved in both incidents. I would think Embraer would prefer to carry on with the rest campaign in Brazil instead of sending one to England for 10 days.

Wes...


I have no indications whatsoever that the KC-390 will not be at Fairford in July, in fact everything is exactly the opposite and very positive.

Tom :cuppa:


I really hope it does arrive, it’s a great looking Aircraft. My comments are purely a personal opinion on what I have seen happen in the past (not at RIAT Imight add)

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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby Kevyboy1979 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:31 pm

Just wondering will we still get an update the week of the show or not? As that's last arrivals day so would there be any that late confirming?
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby mark_aviation on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:44 pm

That Atlantique is a real highlight for me. :up: First time I’ll have seen one (which pretty much guarantees it’ll cancel :lol: )
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby G67 on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 6:51 pm

mark_aviation wrote:That Atlantique is a real highlight for me. :up: First time I’ll have seen one (which pretty much guarantees it’ll cancel :lol: )


Was just logging-on to say the same thing! Looking forward to seeing that and the German Transall on arrivals / departures days, those Tynes and the big props create some wild vortices when the air is humid. Pity the French aren't sending a Transall too.

Just waiting for a South African Herk now, even though Herk props look a little feeble in comparison...
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby CJS on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 7:17 pm

Kevyboy1979 wrote:Just wondering will we still get an update the week of the show or not? As that's last arrivals day so would there be any that late confirming?


Probably won't be a regular Thursday update after next week or the week after, stuff just gets announced as and when - which is already happening now to be fair - or sometimes it never makes it to an announcement at all as it's so last minute - last year's Israeli C-130 for example.

There certainly won't be an update like we're used to on the Thursday before the first show day.
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Re: RIAT 2018 discussion

Postby jason82wells on Thu 14 Jun 2018, 7:25 pm

Another cracking update update!

Just hope we don't get too many cancellations as we get closer to the weekend.
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