RIAT 2018 wishlist

Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby CJS on Mon 18 Dec 2017, 8:54 pm

It certainly added a bit of excitement to the day!

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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby TijnvandeBeld on Thu 21 Dec 2017, 10:30 pm

Just a few wishes, which may well be coming true...

Austrian: Typhoon
German: A-310
Belgian: Alpha jet
French: C-135
Spanish: CASA
Portuguese: P-3
Royal Danish: Super Lynx
USAF: A-10, B-1, C-5

Any Mig/sukhoi from any AF
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby aviodromefriend on Thu 21 Dec 2017, 10:44 pm

TijnvandeBeld wrote:Royal Danish: Super Lynx
Those are wfu since a few days.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby cg_341 on Thu 21 Dec 2017, 10:49 pm

And I think Belgian Alpha Jets will be withdrawn by July too?
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Airshowhammer on Sat 23 Dec 2017, 8:12 pm

No Couteau Delta so it seems!
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby jasonT1981 on Sat 23 Dec 2017, 10:42 pm

Airshowhammer wrote:No Couteau Delta so it seems!


Will be elsewhere in UK this summer but not RIAT apparently.

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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby wamovements on Sun 24 Dec 2017, 4:32 pm

Hoe about a NASA Canberra?
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby aviodromefriend on Sun 24 Dec 2017, 7:02 pm

wamovements wrote:How about a NASA Canberra?
Would be nice, with NASA connections to Fairford as a shuttle emergency landing site (or whatever was the official name), but that hasn't resulted in any NASA participation at RIAT. Would be interesting to hear the reaction from some people setting up something at Doncaster, when they find out there are more Canberras flying in the world (just ignoring the fact that those are WB-57s).
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby CJS on Sun 24 Dec 2017, 7:14 pm

Eh? More than none you mean? Or are you not referring to a certain tin triangle?
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby aviodromefriend on Sun 24 Dec 2017, 8:24 pm

CJS wrote:Eh? More than none you mean? Or are you not referring to a certain tin triangle?
More than no Canberra.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Airshowhammer on Mon 25 Dec 2017, 11:10 am

jasonT1981 wrote:
Airshowhammer wrote:No Couteau Delta so it seems!


Will be elsewhere in UK this summer but not RIAT apparently.



Judging by their Instagram, they seem to be massive fans of Duxford..
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby F-5F on Wed 27 Dec 2017, 9:42 am

If definitely not attending then Couteau Delta is a massive loss for RIAT 18 given how popular they (and their predecessors) are/were. I'm sure I have read elsewhere (not 100% certain) that the Patrouille de France are unable to attend either due to another commitment. So French flying participation looking weak already.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby F1jetfan on Mon 01 Jan 2018, 1:35 pm

Turkish kc135 on static
New Zealand 757 flying
Finnish F-18 flying
Suisse F-18 flying
Polish mig 29 flying
Danish f16 flying
Canadian, Brazilian and Australian c130's static
Norwegian historic f104 flying
Jordanian mirage f1 flying or static
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby 707Mills on Mon 01 Jan 2018, 1:55 pm

Flying:
USAF A-10
Polish SU-22 Pair
Swedish Historic Flight Draken
Croatian Wings of Storm
Blue Impulse
Swiss F-18
RAF F-35

Static:
USAF B-1
USAF B-52
USAF F-15
USAF F-16
USAF J-8
Omani C-130
Canadian CC-150
NATO E-3
RAF E-3
RAF RC-135
Israeli 707
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Go4Long on Mon 01 Jan 2018, 6:01 pm

707Mills wrote:
Static:

Canadian CC-150



I am curious to see what the Canadians will bring as a support aircraft for the CF-188's (I will assume they will fly more than one of our fighters over as a backup for any failures)
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby harkins on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 11:07 am

The fact the Mirage pair aren't coming despite being an indisputable star of any airshow in the world and that I read that Cosford are having a chronological display of available RAF types, makes me wonder if this years RIAT might not be all that we're expecting and that apart from the RAF fly past (even which makes me wonder how spectacular it can be with so few types and so little availability) that it might be dominated by private Spitfires and Jet Provosts performing flypasts. There's so little on the circuit nowadays that the French pair is without argument a loss from the start.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby harkins on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 11:07 am

Sorry, double post due to sluggish wi-fi.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby cg_341 on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 11:09 am

Don't forget it's up to the French to decide what they send. It's not up to RIAT to say "nah, we don't want Couteau Delta this year, too interesting, let's make CJS happy with loads of JPs!"
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby harkins on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 12:34 pm

That's a fair point if that's the case. Having said that, what else really do the French have to offer for a flying display?
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby CJS on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 12:58 pm

cg_341 wrote:Don't forget it's up to the French to decide what they send. It's not up to RIAT to say "nah, we don't want Couteau Delta this year, too interesting, let's make CJS happy with loads of JPs!"


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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Spotty_Jag on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 1:05 pm

harkins wrote:Having said that, what else really do the French have to offer for a flying display?

Going on what was offered in 2017, the French Air Force should have the following display assets available:

Patrouille de France (8x Alpha Jet)
L'équipe de Voltige (2x Extra 300SC)
Couteau Delta (2x Mirage 2000D - Tactical Display)
Rafale (Solo Display)
Alpha Jet (Solo Display)

So still plenty of options for the French Air Force to support the flying display at RIAT 2018, even without Couteau Delta.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby harkins on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 1:56 pm

Quite a bit then, although F-5F has said that the PdF are reportedly already engaged that week and the Extra300SC would generally be seen as a toilet break at the International Air Tattoo.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby aviodromefriend on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 4:03 pm

Given the dates RIAT takes place, any French participation is a bonus. Mind, the French have Bastille day clashing with DBH's big party!
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby F-5F on Tue 02 Jan 2018, 11:18 pm

Further to my post above regarding the Couteau Delta disappointment to be fair to other countries what do they get from the UK? Why should they send display items?

On a separate issue I note the Swiss Hornet is confirmed flying for Scottish airshow. Just checked the confirmed list by Boff for RIAT and it seems to be lagging behind Cosford and Yeovilton albeit they are a couple of weeks earlier. I'm wondering whether harkins might be right and this may not live up to expectations despite the amazing ticket sales already. Come on DBH, throw us a bone, let's have some flying updates and start getting excited.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Tommy on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 11:06 am

F-5F wrote:Further to my post above regarding the Couteau Delta disappointment to be fair to other countries what do they get from the UK? Why should they send display items?


That's a thing I've always noticed. The RAF are awful (with a very slight improvement in recent years) at making European airshow commitments when compared to the amount of European stuff that visits the UK - and it's not just RIAT, but when Cosford has secured the Swiss F-18, Italian Tornado, Belgian F-16, Swiss PC-7 Team, Biggin managed the Czech Air Force etc in recent years, the RAF are very poor at reciprocating.

Though, that's not the RAF's fault automatically, I think it's a symptom of the UK Airshow scene - It's not necessarily "too many airshows" - though per capita I'll wager the UK has the highest number of airshows in the world - it's just that it seems every regatta, flower show, village fete, bloke and his dog, ceremony, outdoor concert, classic car show, etc etc wants a piece of the RAF, be it the BBMF, the Typhoon, the Reds, or something else in between. The poor crews barely have any time to fly abroad to participate in foreign events, even if they wanted to.

And it does matter to a certain extent - I may be (likely) completely wrong, but I seem to recall in 2013(?) the Poles confirmed their MiG-29 at RIAT, then withdrew it because of lack of RAF participation at Radom, which was rectified by a static Hawk to that show, which then moved the MiG-29 back onto the list for RIAT. Absolute playground stuff, that was.

F-5F wrote:On a separate issue I note the Swiss Hornet is confirmed flying for Scottish airshow. Just checked the confirmed list by Boff for RIAT and it seems to be lagging behind Cosford and Yeovilton albeit they are a couple of weeks earlier. I'm wondering whether harkins might be right and this may not live up to expectations despite the amazing ticket sales already. Come on DBH, throw us a bone, let's have some flying updates and start getting excited.


That's probably going a bit far - RIAT have confirmed an F-35B and the Canadian Hornet amongst the RAF stuff. That's pretty decent. Though RIAT do indeed need to get the "Participation List" online!

I sometimes think RIAT are victims of their own success - Swiss F-18 at Scotland and people are like "hiooo, wow, nice, what a coup!", if that was all DBH had confirmed so far people would be like "ehhh... come on, DBH! Let's go!"
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