RIAT 2018 wishlist

Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby RIAT Air Ops on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 11:18 am

F-5F wrote:Further to my post above regarding the Couteau Delta disappointment to be fair to other countries what do they get from the UK? Why should they send display items?

On a separate issue I note the Swiss Hornet is confirmed flying for Scottish airshow. Just checked the confirmed list by Boff for RIAT and it seems to be lagging behind Cosford and Yeovilton albeit they are a couple of weeks earlier. I'm wondering whether harkins might be right and this may not live up to expectations despite the amazing ticket sales already. Come on DBH, throw us a bone, let's have some flying updates and start getting excited.


Come on, January has only just started! With the majority of foreign air arms yet to work through their ratification process to then confirm what their support to any shows will look like then its hardly a case of us "throwing you a bone". Irrespective of what Cosford/Yeovilton/Scottish Air Show are putting out most Air Arms are only just starting to pick up after the Christmas & New Year break. I'll repeat that we don't announce anything until we have a formal notification from the respective nations; even then that is subject to change and in some cases sooner than we would like!

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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Chopper81 on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 12:20 pm

Spotty_Jag wrote:
harkins wrote:Having said that, what else really do the French have to offer for a flying display?

Going on what was offered in 2017, the French Air Force should have the following display assets available:

Patrouille de France (8x Alpha Jet)
L'équipe de Voltige (2x Extra 300SC)
Couteau Delta (2x Mirage 2000D - Tactical Display)
Rafale (Solo Display)
Alpha Jet (Solo Display)

So still plenty of options for the French Air Force to support the flying display at RIAT 2018, even without Couteau Delta.


The French do also have Navy displays, the Rafale pair at Yeovilton was a highlight for me in 2017! Not to say RIAT would get them, this is a wishlist though :biggrin:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Go4Long on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 2:23 pm

Chopper81 wrote:
Spotty_Jag wrote:
harkins wrote:Having said that, what else really do the French have to offer for a flying display?

Going on what was offered in 2017, the French Air Force should have the following display assets available:

Patrouille de France (8x Alpha Jet)
L'équipe de Voltige (2x Extra 300SC)
Couteau Delta (2x Mirage 2000D - Tactical Display)
Rafale (Solo Display)
Alpha Jet (Solo Display)

So still plenty of options for the French Air Force to support the flying display at RIAT 2018, even without Couteau Delta.


The French do also have Navy displays, the Rafale pair at Yeovilton was a highlight for me in 2017! Not to say RIAT would get them, this is a wishlist though :biggrin:


The Rafale pair is the second best "not a display team" display that I've ever seen...second only to the awesome air-to-air and A2G demos put on by Nellis every year at their show where they fly the snot out of everything they've got...side by side full afterburner low transitions by F-15's, flare dumps by the F-16's, F-15's, and this year the F-35's.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby spotterwilliam on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 10:39 am

That's exactly what RIAT is missing, a good air power demo.

And, as this is the wishlist thread, my wishlist is a NATO airfield attack demonstration... :wink:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Airshowhammer on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 2:31 pm

Collings Foundation F4. Will cost a bomb, but if shoved in to back of a C17 it is possible? Or am i in cloud cuckoo land.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby vulcanshammer on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 2:43 pm

Airshowhammer wrote:Collings Foundation F4. Will cost a bomb, but if shoved in to back of a C17 it is possible? Or am i in cloud cuckoo land.


Probably, but it is a wishlist! :lol: Let's hope they chuck in the Skyhawk while they are at it! Then wheel in a Spanish or US Harrier for a dogfight :biggrin:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby capercaillie on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 2:46 pm

Airshowhammer wrote:Collings Foundation F4. Will cost a bomb, but if shoved in to back of a C17 it is possible? Or am i in cloud cuckoo land.


They might not be too happy about that. :whistle:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby SPLAT on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 5:26 pm

Having seen the invited countries today , more of a dream than wish list
Civilian AN225
Ecuadorian IAI KFIR
Hellenic Apache
Jap Navy Shinmaywa
Mexican Mil26
Indian Navy MIG29
Chinese airforce display team August 1st
Peruvian SU25 Tiger marked
USAF A10 Demo team
Vietnamese SU27
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby SPLAT on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 5:30 pm

Airshowhammer wrote:Collings Foundation F4. Will cost a bomb, but if shoved in to back of a C17 it is possible? Or am i in cloud cuckoo land.

The Canadian showed the way in 2017 , by bringing in the Chinook , so ferrying a F4 in a USAF display C5, C17 etc is feasable , but as said , cost is everything
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Steve p on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 10:50 pm

As it is the RAFs centenry it would be nice to see some of the RAFs most iconic aircraft in the flying display, fury, vimy, gladiator, halifax, mosquito, beaufighter, sunderland, meteor, hunter, canberra, javelin, victor, vulcan, lightning, buccaneer, phantom, jaguar, harrier as well as of course spitfire, hurricane and lancaster, oh wait there a min we have a bit of a problem!!!.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby capercaillie on Fri 05 Jan 2018, 9:13 am

Steve p wrote:As it is the RAFs centenry it would be nice to see some of the RAFs most iconic aircraft in the flying display, fury, vimy, gladiator, halifax, mosquito, beaufighter, sunderland, meteor, hunter, canberra, javelin, victor, vulcan, lightning, buccaneer, phantom, jaguar, harrier as well as of course spitfire, hurricane and lancaster, oh wait there a min we have a bit of a problem!!!.


Yes we do, you used iconic and Javelin in the same sentence. :dizzy:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby CJS on Fri 05 Jan 2018, 11:03 am

capercaillie wrote:
Steve p wrote:As it is the RAFs centenry it would be nice to see some of the RAFs most iconic aircraft in the flying display, fury, vimy, gladiator, halifax, mosquito, beaufighter, sunderland, meteor, hunter, canberra, javelin, victor, vulcan, lightning, buccaneer, phantom, jaguar, harrier as well as of course spitfire, hurricane and lancaster, oh wait there a min we have a bit of a problem!!!.


Yes we do, you used iconic and Javelin in the same sentence. :dizzy:


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Plenty to be had there :grin: - Gladiator, Mosquito, Meteor, Hunter, Canberra, Lightning, Buccanear, Phantom, Jaguar, Harrier...easy peasy. :whistle:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Gripenjetphotos on Fri 05 Jan 2018, 12:24 pm

After seeing the invited list, there is one aircraft I’d like to see:
Columbian Kfir Block 60! :drool:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Steve p on Fri 05 Jan 2018, 12:48 pm

capercaillie wrote:
Steve p wrote:As it is the RAFs centenry it would be nice to see some of the RAFs most iconic aircraft in the flying display, fury, vimy, gladiator, halifax, mosquito, beaufighter, sunderland, meteor, hunter, canberra, javelin, victor, vulcan, lightning, buccaneer, phantom, jaguar, harrier as well as of course spitfire, hurricane and lancaster, oh wait there a min we have a bit of a problem!!!.


Yes we do, you used iconic and Javelin in the same sentence. :dizzy:


Ok maybe a bit bias toward Javelins as they was built just a few miles from where i live :wink:
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby aviodromefriend on Fri 05 Jan 2018, 7:52 pm

SPLAT wrote:The Canadian showed the way in 2017 , by bringing in the Chinook , so ferrying a F4 in a USAF display C5, C17 etc is feasable , but as said , cost is everything
More than one bit of simplistic remark. The Chinook can be taken apart in bits that fit inside a Globemaster. I'm not so sure a Phantom can be taken apart in fitable pieces and be returned in an airworthy state.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Airwolfhound on Sat 06 Jan 2018, 12:44 pm

Would be very nice if the French Navy could send over some assets either in the flying or static display. Been a very long time since I've seen an E-2C Hawkeye, and would be great to see a Panther or NH90 if available.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby aviodromefriend on Sun 07 Jan 2018, 12:37 pm

As they are ex-RAF, Austrian C-130. I think one was there 10 years ago for the 90th, it just wasn't seen by too many ticketholders. Anyway, as much as possible of the participants from '08 as long as these are still around might be a nice thing.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby mavvymoo on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 11:43 am

I'd quite like to see that Textron(?) Scorpion that has been in the static for a while in the air.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby CJS on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 1:28 pm

mavvymoo wrote:I'd quite like to see that Textron(?) Scorpion that has been in the static for a while in the air.


IIRC (which if I'm honest is unlikely) they said when I spoke to them the first year they came (was it 2015?) that 2018 "may" be the year they manage to put a display together, although I've not heard anything since.

It's certainly doing the rounds and has been tested or discussed with lots of air arms around the world, so it's perhaps a bit of a surprise they haven't displayed it anywhere yet, other than statically. The first production model (which I think is the second one they've built) was first seen at the Dubai airshow last November, but I don't think it flew in the display (may be wrong about that).
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Tommy on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 11:58 am

CJS wrote:IIRC (which if I'm honest is unlikely) they said when I spoke to them the first year they came (was it 2015?) that 2018 "may" be the year they manage to put a display together, although I've not heard anything since.


One year out; the Scorpion first attended in 2014 if memory serves.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby CJS on Fri 12 Jan 2018, 4:13 pm

Tommy wrote:
CJS wrote:IIRC (which if I'm honest is unlikely) they said when I spoke to them the first year they came (was it 2015?) that 2018 "may" be the year they manage to put a display together, although I've not heard anything since.


One year out; the Scorpion first attended in 2014 if memory serves.


Ah Ok, I wasn't there in 2014 so I must have spoken to them the second year they came! Whatever, I'm pretty sure they mooted 2018 as the first possible year they might have a display ready.
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Havoc on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 9:55 am

Going through my shots of various last year, PLANAF and PLAAF uniforms were quite well represented.
I'd like to jump on the August 1st bandwagon.

And Tom..when are we gonna get the TBM700 Role Demo??
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Tommy on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 10:59 am

Chucking this one out there, but how about the UAE F-16 Desert Falcon, or (even better, IMO) their Mirage 2000-5?
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby edhunter on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 1:08 pm

Wouldn't say no to a couple of jaguars from India and a harrier or two from usmc
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Re: RIAT 2018 wishlist

Postby Airshowhammer on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 1:29 pm

Malaysia. Cough cough :ninja:
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