Hewy wrote:If you took time to read my wee bit properly I think you'll find my tongue was firmly placed in my cheek regarding the 2005 Typhoon incident and the pilot's backside to floor proximity for as I said, I have no problem with the current Typhoon display.
Hewy wrote:I find your use of witnessing a crash in order to achieve some sort of merit within your point to be at the very least crass. I too have witnessed a airshow crashes, namely the Vintage Pair at Mildenhall as a kid in 86 (2 years before Ramstein) and it nearly put me off airshows for good and then the fulcrums at Fairford 93. Neither of which were a result of pilots going too far. The Vintage Pair incident floored me as a year before at Teesside Airshow I had a chance to meet the pilots and a guided tour around the aircraft. That incident occurred when they were seemingly flying by calmly.
I also witnessed the Fulcrum crashes at Fairford. And although the less tragic yet equally scary at the time Fulcrum crash occurred during a more complex move it was still a procedure practised and displayed many times before.
Hewy wrote:Also less than a year before the horrific incident in Toronto I had the honour of flying twice with the crew of XV239, once to the arctic and back and once around the North Sea oil fields whilst on annual camp at nearby Lossiemouth. The greatest flights of my life, and I have had a few worth telling the grand kids about.
Hewy wrote:As for that crash, and the Mig crash and every crash since Ramstein yet to come I think you can agree that thankfully the air display community has gone out of its way to increase and maintain overall safety for all involved especially the public. What this has resulted in however is less opportunity to really see aircraft put through their paces properly and displaying to their full potential, apart from as mentioned before test aircraft at the hands of experienced test pilots.
Hewy wrote:As for XH558, well as you know she's still around like the missing Thunderbird vehicle and in the 80's she was displayed differently often enough, the odd extra touch and go and zoom climb here and another "why not" of a wing-over there.
Hewy wrote:My point was, and is that there always has been and always will be the chance of a crash at an airshow, it's something we as enthusiasts and they as display pilots are more than aware of and live with and I think safe doesn't necessarily have to mean boring... Ask Anatoly Kvochur, anything he had strapped to him had it's neck wrung and he still walks the earth.
Please let's not get into the whole thing of 'I've seen more crashes than you'. This being an enthusiast site means that it is likely most of us have had, at one time or another, that very tragic experience.