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Can I be the first to point out that "a quantum leap" would be the smallest possible leap.

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Someone remind me why the raf didnt order the A model? Are we back to hiding in forests in Germany?

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There are strong rumours we will eventually be buying A's to supplement the expected UCAV fleet.

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Traveller wrote:Someone remind me why the raf didnt order the A model? Are we back to hiding in forests in Germany?


Well they did try and change the order to C variants when they had second thoughts about sticking catapults on the carriers, which would've been the ideal 'fits all' solution if they wanted to interchange airframes between the RAF and Navy.

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because HMG don't have a clue about what our forces really need...................... :facepalm:

they should have kept the Harrier instead of `giving` them away to the USA so we could buy the F35........... :mad:

remember when TSR2 was in development but that was scrapped so we could buy the F1-11 from uncle Sam, only for that deal to fall through after the jigs were destroyed for the TSR2 and it was too late.......................... :clown: :dizzy: :wall:
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when we look back at this latest episode in defense procurement in perhaps 20 years time or so, how likely is it that we will glad that our money was spend so wisely and it turned out to be fantastic VFM?
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How many will we actually buy, has that been decided? With both carriers being able to house 40 aircraft each, we'll need a fair few of them one would imagine.

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ericbee123 wrote:Can I be the first to point out that "a quantum leap" would be the smallest possible leap.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum


That's what "quantum" means. A "quantum leap" means some thing else - in this case "a sudden large increase or advance."
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Burleysway wrote:How many will we actually buy, has that been decided? With both carriers being able to house 40 aircraft each, we'll need a fair few of them one would imagine.
That would mean they will both be fully equipped at the same time. Can't see THAT happening.
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aviodromefriend wrote:
Burleysway wrote:How many will we actually buy, has that been decided? With both carriers being able to house 40 aircraft each, we'll need a fair few of them one would imagine.
That would mean they will both be fully equipped at the same time. Can't see THAT happening.


Its not even a given we'll ever operate both carriers if I remember rightly. Isn't the decision on whether to put into service or immediately mothball the second one due in next year's review?

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flashman8 wrote:because HMG don't have a clue about what our forces really need...................... :facepalm:

they should have kept the Harrier instead of `giving` them away to the USA so we could buy the F35........... :mad:

remember when TSR2 was in development but that was scrapped so we could buy the F1-11 from uncle Sam, only for that deal to fall through after the jigs were destroyed for the TSR2 and it was too late.......................... :clown: :dizzy: :wall:


Far from a given though that the TSR2 programme would've been restarted on the back of the F-111 delays/cancellation even if tooling was still available. The F-111K was cancelled due to its rising costs and sterling vanishing down a hole, yet the projected purchase/operating costs of TSR2 would've been higher still.

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It was said months ago that both will be in service and next sdsr will be a reverse of what has previously been IE,we're going to increase the size of our armed forces,More ships/tanks/Phoons etc etc Why? Just look at the imminent brand new cold war and the I.S mess etc and who knows what else will be kicking off around the corner! The world is becoming more like Lothian road on a Saturday night!!
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Indeed both will enter service. Whether both are actually at sea at the same time I don't know. 48 was the initial requirement. If you think of 20 aircraft on each giving a 50% availablility rate of 10 (would they really need any more?) then add in perhaps 2 squadrons of RAF to replace the Tornados plus 10 OCU/OEU I reckon 80 tops??

With 120+ Typhoon I think a 200 strong fighter force for the UK is an adequate number in this day and age.

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