Brevet Cable wrote:And you gleaned all your information from their website, or ffrom elsewhere ?
From elsewhere. In this case, several friends & contacts in the Antipodes, whose judgement I trust and who seem to regard this as a serious initiative.
Brevet Cable wrote:And you gleaned all your information from their website, or ffrom elsewhere ?
Pat Murphy wrote:least I now know who owns the collection of Parts in Avspecs Hangar with DZ452 written on the boxes
FarnboroJohn wrote:As far as I know the RAF still has two B35/TT35: TJ138 and TA639. They've no need for two, let alone two of near enough the same Mark.
Get one down to New Zealand, put the systems on a new build airframe and hand it over to BBMF. Job done.
No reason why the charities can't compete to fund it.
John
pbeardmore wrote:"and hand it over to BBMF"
And what do they do with it?
FarnboroJohn wrote:"It is a common misconception that the RAF and the RAF Museum are the same entity. They are not." And your point is? RAFM already gave their Mosquito TIII to Norway, can't remember if they got anything back for it: at present they are sitting on two near-identical assets at the same time as lending their only real Typhoon to Canada (again, in exchange for what I'm not sure): its clearly a misuse of national heritage assets and a better one would be to redeploy one into the live end of the heritage business to complete the BBMF fleet. If somebody can't work through the administrative questions successfully to achieve an aim like that then our administrators need to buck their ideas up.
John
FarnboroJohn wrote:RAFM already gave their Mosquito TIII to Norway
Mike wrote:FarnboroJohn wrote:RAFM already gave their Mosquito TIII to Norway
No, they didn't. The Mosquito T.III was never owned by the RAF Museum.
Pringles wrote:Dan O'Hagan wrote:Wasn't there a plan for one to end up at Biggin Hill?
As far as I'm aware, despite much excitement and fanfare following the initial statement, nothing more seems to have come of it and it has faded from view - I seem to recall a statement saying this was no-longer being pursued, however I may have made it up
FarnboroJohn wrote:Mike wrote:FarnboroJohn wrote:RAFM already gave their Mosquito TIII to Norway
No, they didn't. The Mosquito T.III was never owned by the RAF Museum.
Then recost the flying Mosquito for UK project without a mass of manufacture from scratch, with a couple of appropriate Merlins right off the bat, and see where we are on the funding target. The real problem all along has been the absence of a donor airframe. All three of those currently flying were rebuilt from near complete remains, not "a carrier bag of bits" as past posters on here have put it.
John
FarnboroJohn wrote:Ah. Now you have engaged my interest. Who did own it then, because it was in RAFM Hendon and then went from there to Norway. I'm sure it was advertised at the time as a museum to museum thing, but I'm always willing to learn.
jalfrezi wrote:I very much doubt any Mosquito airframes currently in museums would be structurally sound enough to return to flight due to the way they were constructed and the glue used...
Mike wrote:jalfrezi wrote:I very much doubt any Mosquito airframes currently in museums would be structurally sound enough to return to flight due to the way they were constructed and the glue used...
Not only this, one of the pair was moved incorrectly by the RAF without being correctly braced, and suffered a broken back. It has since been cosmetically repaired for display, but is structurally knackered (I think that is the correct technical term!)
FarnboroJohn wrote:Right attitude in the statement, but a joint statement would have been even better.... less appearance of trying to beat the other party to the draw. Anyway, best of luck.
John
It is therefore disheartening that, despite increasing public awareness and a supporter base that grows each day, The People’s Mosquito received no communication from The Mosquito Pathfinder Trust – either informally or formally – prior to its recent launch.
GertrudetheMerciless wrote:TMPT seem to have been going about their business in a different way in the background before going public, for which maybe they should deserve some credit.
Brevet Cable wrote:Interestingly, DZ542 was supposed to have been in line to be restored by Avspecs was back in 2015, so what happened ?