Airlander News & Discussion

Airlander News & Discussion

Postby NAM Updater on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:10 pm

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby pbeardmore on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:13 pm

"The flight went really well and the only issue was when it landed."

I love that line
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Spiny Norman on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:22 pm

Here's video of its descent and subsequent contact with the ground.

https://youtu.be/LSMJaxRGU-k
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dragon Rapide on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:23 pm

Quite so. Picked it up from Sky on the internet earlier and doesn't appear to be serious. Let's hope not.

Just watched the video. Came to rest very slowly nose down. The clip is titled Airlander10 crashing!
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Alanko on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:40 pm

User error?

Maybe something for another thread, but what is the eventual purpose of these things? In my mind, as much as I like them, there are fundamental issues with airship designs that cannot really be engineered out of the equation.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby planenuttoo on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:40 pm

Let's hope this is repairable pretty quickly? More concern over the audio from youngsters, than adults.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Ewart on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 12:53 pm

Alanko wrote:Maybe something for another thread, but what is the eventual purpose of these things? In my mind, as much as I like them, there are fundamental issues with airship designs that cannot really be engineered out of the equation.


Heavy lift of equipment to places that aeroplanes can not land. Such as remote Alaskan mines.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Russ on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 1:18 pm

I wouldn't say it was minor to be honest. Yes, thankfully, nobody was injured and the descent was slow but clearly nose down and perhaps out of control (without trying to sound sensationalist). That's a considerable amount of damage to the cockpit too, perhaps lucky the crew were unhurt.

Hopefully it's fixed soon and whatever the cause was, is rectified soon.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby pb643 on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 1:24 pm

To be fair, it was only the second flight, so I guess the pilots notes don't exist. I must be a massive learning curve, pretty much making it up as you go along.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby pbeardmore on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 1:27 pm

I am a massive fan of "Outback Truckers" and those guys go though hell to get essential supplies into isolated locations. So I can see the potential.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby NAM Updater on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 1:29 pm

Russ wrote:I wouldn't say it was minor to be honest.

Looking at the new footage I would tend to agree - however when I first posted the BBC link the headline seemed to indicated that it had "clipped a telegraph pole"
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 1:39 pm

Reports suggesting a mooring cable fouled telephone wires on approach would certainly account for such a nose-down attitude over the landing field.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 3:02 pm

Shamefully, Sky News have tweeted a speeded-up video clip, which makes it look far, far worse than it was.

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Big Eric on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 4:23 pm

Blimey !! Why did it keep bouncing on the ground? It looks like a space-hopper that's gone wrong. :grin:
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Wissam24 on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 6:15 pm

Big Eric wrote:Blimey !! Why did it keep bouncing on the ground? It looks like a space-hopper that's gone wrong. :grin:


A combination of gravity and the elasticity of the dirigble skin.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby planenuttoo on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 9:19 pm

Big Eric wrote:Blimey !! Why did it keep bouncing on the ground? It looks like a space-hopper that's gone wrong.


Methinks, engines stuck in same speed and mode, not disabled by impact.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 10:09 pm

planenuttoo wrote:
Big Eric wrote:Blimey !! Why did it keep bouncing on the ground? It looks like a space-hopper that's gone wrong.


Methinks, engines stuck in same speed and mode, not disabled by impact.


Methinks? Sorry, didn't realise this was UK Airshow Review 1587.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dragon Rapide on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 4:47 am

You are clearly unaware of the age of some of the membership. Refreshing to see the word still used.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Jetnoise on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 5:35 am

You are clearly unaware of the age of some of the membership. Refreshing to see the word still used.


Verily so.

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby DerekF on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 6:43 am

I think perhaps archaic language is appropriate for archaic technology? There have been several attempts to resurrect airship technology since the Hindenburg. Success has so far eluded them. I wonder why they think this one will succeed where others have failed?
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Wissam24 on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 9:25 am

Forsooth, our members are entitled to use whatsoever words they wish! Meseemeth it is not for us to ask wherefore nor would we fain dictate unto them a prescribed vocabulary.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dragon Rapide on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 9:29 am

It's certainly a step up from some of the English?? on other Fora. UKAR is blameless in this respect!!!
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby pbeardmore on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 9:44 am

more drift in this thread than the airship
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 9:46 am

DerekF wrote:I think perhaps archaic language is appropriate for archaic technology? There have been several attempts to resurrect airship technology since the Hindenburg. Success has so far eluded them. I wonder why they think this one will succeed where others have failed?


My thinking exactly. The only role, commercial or otherwise, that they've fulfilled with any success since those times is as an airborne billboard. I've seen nothing on this one that makes any claim to its capability other than endurance.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Alanko on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 11:23 am

Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.
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