Airlander News & Discussion

Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby cg_341 on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 12:15 pm

Alanko wrote:Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.

Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Wissam24 on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 1:20 pm

Hampshire Aviation wrote:
Alanko wrote:Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.

Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!


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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Skyflash on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 1:27 pm

Wissam24 wrote:
Hampshire Aviation wrote:
Alanko wrote:Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.

Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!


Ending a sentence with a preposition; how uncouth...


Two prepositions, indeed! :mad:

To the stocks with him, I say!
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dragon Rapide on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 2:09 pm

There to have copies of Fowler thrown at him!
Listen to that Gipsy music.....

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby NAM Updater on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 2:45 pm

Latest BBC reports suggest that Airlander may have hit a power cable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-37184864
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Dragon Rapide on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 2:47 pm

That was actually reported elsewhere yesterday but I haven't seen any confirmation subsequently.
Listen to that Gipsy music.....

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby TKK 140 on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 3:27 pm

pbeardmore wrote:I am a massive fan of "Outback Truckers" and those guys go though hell to get essential supplies into isolated locations. So I can see the potential.



Would an Mi-26 not do the same, without being subject to the same restrictions as an Airship?
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Russ on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 3:33 pm

Yes, but it means buying from the Russians, which at the moment is frowned upon in certain quarters. Particularly with a long term support contract.

Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Wissam24 on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 3:35 pm

Russ wrote:Yes, but it means buying from the Russians, which at the moment is frowned upon in certain quarters. Particularly with a long term support contract.

Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.


Plus I guess nothing like the same level of endurance?

large, wide/long, loads.


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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby planenuttoo on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 4:56 pm

Looking at the damage this looks like it will set the project back a few weeks, but would be a good test of their design ability to build in some more strength to the structure.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Flankerman on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 6:42 pm

Russ wrote:Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.


According to this link :- https://www.hybridairvehicles.com/downl ... der-21.pdf ....the Airlander 10 has a 'payload capacity' of 'up to 10,000kg' - 10 tonnes.

According to Wiki :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26 .... the Mi-26 has an underslung payload of 20,000kg - 20 tonnes.

Plus.... can the Airlander do this ?.........

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby qwerty on Sat 27 Aug 2016, 11:41 am

Cost also has a bearing on bulky heavylift operations. Rotary lifts are at the top end of costs,consider the small number of moving parts in an Airlander on comparision to a helo or heavylift transport, the airship has a simplicity which cannot be bettered.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby DanH on Sun 09 Apr 2017, 5:00 pm

According to the Hybrid Air Vehicles Facebook page, Airlander has been back outside for the last couple of days as the first step towards resuming the flight testing programme. Looks like they buffed out all the dents after their little prang last year.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby capercaillie on Mon 10 Apr 2017, 10:33 am

qwerty wrote: the airship has a simplicity which cannot be bettered.


Unless its slightly breezy or worse......
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby Joe Spares on Mon 10 Apr 2017, 10:42 am

It was outside on Saturday, saw the top of it from the A428 (?)as we headed home from Lakenheath.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby DanH on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 11:54 am

Airlander has had another incident this morning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-engla ... s-42037832
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby hunterxf382 on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 11:57 am

Not a "crash" - read the report! It was moored on its mast at the time of the incident. A sad sight in the photo accompanying the article :(

Edit: I see you've edited your post Dan H....
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby speedbird2639 on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 1:16 pm

Even if it is repairable/ the can build a replacement I can't help thinking that this is the end of the line for the Airlander. Not many potential customers are going to want to trust their cargo to something that finishes up in a hedge due to a light breeze.

The whole 'airship for cargo lifting' has been tried many times ( I remember seeing a documentary about a similar venture in 1980ish) but whilst it seems like a good idea on paper/ in simulations it never seems to transfer to actuality and potential customers seem very sceptical and unconvinced.
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby Flare Path on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 2:36 pm

Another incident, I see.

That's the Airlander dream finished - can't see many customers placing their trust in this.
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby cg_341 on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 2:58 pm

787s on the other hand were absolutely spot on during flight testing. And when in airline service. And even now! Oh wait... :whistle:

The press release states that the aircraft was meant to be ripped open. How true that is is open for discussion!

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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby Pringles on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 3:13 pm

Bit of a let down... :whistle:
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

Postby DanH on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 5:03 pm

hunterxf382 wrote:Edit: I see you've edited your post Dan H....


Yeah on reading my post back afterwards I realised the wording was a bit rash. :up:
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby helired3 on Sat 02 Dec 2017, 12:11 pm

insurance claim of up to £32m is being submitted by the company behind the world's longest aircraft.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-42199281
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Mon 04 Dec 2017, 8:40 am

helired3 wrote:insurance claim of up to £32m is being submitted by the company behind the world's longest aircraft.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-42199281


I'm guessing this *might* affect next year's premium.

Time to put this project to bed, once and for all. Nice enough idea, until you come to the practical realities.
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

Postby Talldan76 on Mon 04 Dec 2017, 9:08 pm

I have to say, that I completely agree with that.

They've given it a good go, but at the end of the day the project hasn't exactly set the world alight.

The other thing to note, is that if they are claiming for circa £32million, god know's how much the initial premiums must have been...
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