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Protest at City Airport

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Stupid people blocked the runway this morning,gather they accessed across the dock.Hope that does not mean a fence along the public walkway by the dock as that would spoil one of the best views of the airport.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37283869
All flights at London City Airport have been disrupted after protesters gained access to the runway.
The Met Police said it was called to the site at about 05:40 BST after nine protesters "locked themselves together" on the runway.
The Black Lives Matter UK movement confirmed it was responsible for the protest.
Seven people have been arrested and two remain on the runway. The airport said inbound flights were being diverted.

Black Lives Matter UK said the action was taken in order to "highlight the UK's environmental impact on the lives of black people locally and globally".
A statement said: "Whilst at London City Airport a small elite is able to fly, in 2016 alone 3,176 migrants are known to have died or gone missing in the Mediterranean.
"Black people are the first to die, not the first to fly, in this racist climate crisis.
"We note, however, that the UK is willing to charter special flights to remove black people from the country based on their immigration status."

Speaking to BBC London, group member Joshua Virasami added: "The community where this airport is is a predominantly black community.
"In Britain, 28% of black people are more likely to be exposed to air pollution... being in closest proximity to the industries causing climate change."
He added the disruption to flights was "a very small inconvenience when you think about the consequences for black communities daily" and the protesters would remain on site "as long as feasibly possible".

Scotland Yard said it was investigating how the protesters got air-side - including the suggestion that they swam across the Thames or used a boat.
When asked how the protesters gained access to the runway, Mr Virasami said "I'm not in a situation to say... but one can use their imagination".


And you're right about stupid people......with these lot being amongst the stupidest.
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Very disturbing that folk can easily access the runway.

"Daily Fail" will have a great time with this.

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So is this Virasami character trying to suggest that London City Airport is an elaborate means of choking Black people while preening racists whites fly in and out at their leisure. Does he not imagine that plenty of Black people have flown in and out of London City Airport and that there are still plenty of white residents in the area?

How about Heathrow? Gatwick? Luton? Prestwick? Abbotsinch? Turnhouse? and military airbases usually located in quite smart rural areas.

The trouble with people like this is they won't be happy until they've stirred up the kind of hatred they profess to be opposing.

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As said Daily Mail asking about security,good idea to just cut them free and drop them into the Dock!
How does it take so long to release these people,must be a building site nearby with some bolt cutters.
The longer you leave them the more publicity they get.
Can see fences going up on the dock side or down the airport side as it is a bit wide open for this sort of thing.

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Have thought for a while now that Climate Change is racist. :ninja: :wall:
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Oh dear!

If you are having to keep the profile of your gripes against society by attaching them to other issues, then you are kinda admitting that your issue wasnt all that big in the first place! In this case, these eejits have belittled the issue of racism by attaching it to something that too many people in our world dont seem to care about!
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I see they've had their day in Court and have all been dealt with to the full poer of the Law.....not !!
Did they get banged-up ? Nope.
Did they get hefty fines ? Nope.
OK , then , did they get community service or ASBOs ? Nope.
So , what exactly did they get ? ....... conditional discharges !!
Wow , that's really going to teach the bottom-feeders a lesson they won't forget and convince them not to do it again , isn't it. :wall:

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/711244/london-city-airport-protest-nine-black-lives-matter
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Yet again the law is an ass. The green light s now illuminated!! 100 hours community service each is what it should have been.
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Conditional discharges aren't a bad option for cases like this where there's a strong likelihood of further similar offending. If they were to behave in a similar way during the period of the CD then they can be resentenced for the original offence and thereby get a much stronger sanction than either offence would have attracted. If they had received a fine or some sort of community disposal there would be nothing hanging over them to deter further offending. This is way these sentences are often used and they're effective for this purpose, it's just unfortunate that the media portray the sanction as a slap on the wrist which is not the case at all.

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I don't follow the logic. They have suffered no material punishment. Whereas if they had been given a community service order they would hopefully find it inconvenient at best and miserable at worst. A deterrent. If they reoffended they'd get a tougher sentence. Punished twice instead of once.
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I hear what you are saying, but I would make three observations. Reoffending doesn't usually result in a stiffer penalty for new matters unless it's the same type of offence, not the same motivation. So if these people protest in a different way that results in criminal behaviour they wouldn't be dealt with more harshly because of the original conviction. There is no way to deter extremists. These people think that they are saving the world, punishing them materially feeds into the push factors in their extremist schemas. Lastly, they are from London where community service (officially community payback now) consists of being driven around in a van for a few hours because the private sector community rehabilitation company can't seem to access viable work placements.

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Aggravated trespass alone carries a maximum term of 3 months imprisonment...so no reason why one month couldn't have been given , together with an ASBO or exclusion/prohibition order ( or whatever they're called these days )
That said , the judiciary unfortunately has form for this , given that the Heathrow idiots were first given custodial sentences & fines but this was later changed to conditional discharges.
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Paul - you appear to know what you are talking about but acceptance that nothing will deter extremists, so handing out a conditional discharge is simply absolution of responsibility to society. They might just as well have been unconditionally discharged.

Test the theory. Impose the maximum sentence applicable. At least it sends out the right message to others considering action elsewhere. And surely something needs to done about community payback in London? If lawbreakers cannot be suitably punished it's the first rung on the ladder to anarchy.
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I understand your point of view, I just wanted to try and explain the reasons why some decisions are made that seem counterintuitive when reported. To be honest, my area is sex offending where even worse criticisms are made about the way in which we approach the problem.

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Fair enough - I understand your explanation. But it certainly makes little legal, moral or common sense. I sometimes wonder if a counterintuitive solution to a problem achieves any more than simply absolving oneself of the responsibility for taking stronger direct action. I hasten to add I am making an observation not a criticism of you or what you have said.
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Is there a reason why people who break into airports aren't dealt with under the terrorism act?

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