Classic Air Force

Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Dan213 on Sun 05 Feb 2017, 8:55 pm

CameronSys wrote:
106500 wrote:Must admit I'm intrigued about the Twin Pin and the long saga about its wing struts. As I understand it, replacements were found and imported but didn't fit. Any update on this story? I for one yearn to see this plane back in the air where it belongs!


Imported wing struts didn't fit, so it was decided that some should be scratch made. The issue being the original strut material is no longer available, so a lighter but stronger material had to be used - which of course needed to be approved. This process began, but I'm not sure if it ever progressed past that.



It's been outside for at least a couple of years now too which is a little worrying and makes me think we won't see this in the air again
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby The Baron on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:48 pm

Who, or what is the UK Heritage Aviation Trust? And what is their connection with Coventry?
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby MicrolightDriver on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 7:13 pm

The Baron wrote:Who, or what is the UK Heritage Aviation Trust? And what is their connection with Coventry?


They have a Facebook page and based on a post today, appear to be in the process of becoming a trust, rather than already being one.

Clearly, some established figures in the classic jet scene are engaging with the discussion.

I notice a phone number and email address on their pages if you wish to contact them.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 7:45 pm

Brevet.. Meh !!
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Comet102 on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 7:52 pm

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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby The Baron on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 8:12 pm

MicrolightDriver wrote:
The Baron wrote:Who, or what is the UK Heritage Aviation Trust? And what is their connection with Coventry?


They have a Facebook page and based on a post today, appear to be in the process of becoming a trust, rather than already being one.

Clearly, some established figures in the classic jet scene are engaging with the discussion.

I notice a phone number and email address on their pages if you wish to contact them.


Thanks MD. I actually came across them through their Facebook page. I just wondered that, as we have several UKARians closely associated with Coventry that they might know a bit more.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Rebecca_1984 on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 10:42 pm

Unfortunately it looks like we have lost out on the Jet Provosts, Meteors and Vampire/Venoms that were for sale


From the UK Trust Facebook page tonight, sounds as if the jets in question have now been sold, one can only hope to someone or a group in the Uk.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Ouragan on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 2:00 pm

Seriously, with the current restrictions on classic jet display flying and no guarantee that they will be lifted, who in the UK is optimistic enough to purchase a fleet of them?
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Kip Casper on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 8:07 am

Going off recent FB posts, the 'Trust' seems to be an enthusiast who thinks that setting up production of new Ghost, Goblins and Darts is a viable idea.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Ryan. on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 1:18 pm

Kip Casper wrote:Going off recent FB posts, the 'Trust' seems to be an enthusiast who thinks that setting up production of new Ghost, Goblins and Darts is a viable idea.


Just having a browse of their Facebook page and it's a mess, gone from buying a Jet Provest to restoring a Viscount or maybe a Varsity or perhaps buying a Buccaneer or Hunter.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 1:47 pm

Going by the fact that their 'Justgiving' appeal has so far raised a grand total of absolutely zilch, I doubt they'll be buying anything any time soon.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 1:51 pm

Seen them on the VPG page too enquiring about the Vampire.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Russ on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 1:59 pm

Sounds a worse idea than building two hangars for a static Vulcan.

The guy didn't even know where the VPG T11 was based, what hope?! :dizzy: :facepalm:
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 2:16 pm

So where exactly do they plan on getting the £100k needed to buy it ?
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Rebecca_1984 on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 4:51 pm

Kip Casper wrote:Going off recent FB posts, the 'Trust' seems to be an enthusiast who thinks that setting up production of new Ghost, Goblins and Darts is a viable idea.


The "Trust" first came into existence in 2015 as a Facebook group set up by a couple of people who wanted to educate the public on the importance of preserving historic static airframes, somehow from that things have been blown out of all proportion and plans are now being made to buy all sorts of aircraft and set up a company building new jet engines for cold war era jets despite nobody involved having the money or engineering support needed for such things. A case of a few no doubt well meaning enthusiasts getting way beyond themselves. I'n not involved myself but someone I know was but left the group having seen the way it was going several months ago.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Stagger2 on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:51 pm

As is the case with most all well-meaning groups lacking any real direction.....it's invariably down!! :wave:
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Vampire 1973 on Tue 28 Feb 2017, 10:23 pm

Having spoken to the guy running it, xm424 was their aim. That got sold before they could get funding underway. The only one left is the Swiss Vampire.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby ColeTheDemolisher on Thu 02 Mar 2017, 8:22 am

Vampire 1973 wrote:Having spoken to the guy running it, xm424 was their aim. That got sold before they could get funding underway. The only one left is the Swiss Vampire.


I'm all for a Vampire :lol: :biggrin: :cool:
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Pringles on Thu 02 Mar 2017, 2:09 pm

MicrolightDriver wrote: Clearly, some established figures in the classic jet scene are engaging with the discussion.

I've seen enough of their posts on the page and elsewhere to see that it is essentially an amateur outfit, the bloke in charge doesn't seem to have any expertise in the operation of aircraft at all. Whilst the established figures in question may be engaging with the discussion, I would hope they would see that it would be extremely unwise to entertain giving this "Trust" any valuable aircraft; I can't see them gaining the funds to even begin obtaining an aircraft fortunately, as with the cloud that hangs over the operation of classic jets I believe amateurs operating a classic jet on the airshow scene to be something extremely dangerous and potentially even more damaging for this ailing scene.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Comet102 on Sun 05 Mar 2017, 7:56 pm

They now want De Havilland Vampire U-1229 (G-HATD).

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/UK-Heritage-Aviation-Trust
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Rebecca_1984 on Sun 05 Mar 2017, 8:49 pm

The UK Heritage Aviation Trust is a brand new organisation with the principle aim of restoring vintage aircraft to the best condition possible, in line with CAA regulations. Although not formally a trust, we hope to become one by the end of the year, as well as selling our merchandise on our soon to be launched website.



Is calling the organisation a trust when at this point in time it is not a trust in the legal sense of the word actually allowed, I understand the aim is to become a trust but at this point in time its just a group of aviation enthusiasts raising money for what is basically a private return to flight project.

As for 100k to get a Vampire purchased and made airworthy, with all due respect to anyone involved with Vampies when one looks at the struggles the Vulcan, Canberra and now the Sea Vixen have encountered in raising funds can a Vampire really attract that sort of public support. Most members of the public know what a Vulcan is and many of them wished to see one fly again can the same be said when it comes to the Vampire ?
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby ColeTheDemolisher on Sun 05 Mar 2017, 9:05 pm

Rebecca_1984 wrote:
The UK Heritage Aviation Trust is a brand new organisation with the principle aim of restoring vintage aircraft to the best condition possible, in line with CAA regulations. Although not formally a trust, we hope to become one by the end of the year, as well as selling our merchandise on our soon to be launched website.



Is calling the organisation a trust when at this point in time it is not a trust in the legal sense of the word actually allowed, I understand the aim is to become a trust but at this point in time its just a group of aviation enthusiasts raising money for what is basically a private return to flight project.

As for 100k to get a Vampire purchased and made airworthy, with all due respect to anyone involved with Vampies when one looks at the struggles the Vulcan, Canberra and now the Sea Vixen have encountered in raising funds can a Vampire really attract that sort of public support. Most members of the public know what a Vulcan is and many of them wished to see one fly again can the same be said when it comes to the Vampire ?


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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Russ on Mon 06 Mar 2017, 10:31 am

Comet102 wrote:They now want De Havilland Vampire U-1229 (G-HATD).

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/UK-Heritage-Aviation-Trust

Very suspicious that they have two different appeals and required totals (80k and 100k) for what appears to be the same thing. Here's the other one...

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/UK-Heritage-Aviation-Trust
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby ColeTheDemolisher on Tue 07 Mar 2017, 9:06 am

Russ wrote:
Comet102 wrote:They now want De Havilland Vampire U-1229 (G-HATD).

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/UK-Heritage-Aviation-Trust

Very suspicious that they have two different appeals and required totals (80k and 100k) for what appears to be the same thing. Here's the other one...

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/UK-Heritage-Aviation-Trust


https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding ... ationTrust

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding ... tion-Trust

Theres the links :smile:
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