Classic Air Force

Re: Classic Air Force

Postby st24 on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 10:26 am

Wrexham Mackem wrote:Its still a crying shame its going. A Meteor trainer will look a little out of place over there, a bit of a fish out of water. Its one of our own. As opposed to the F-86A, which sad as it was to lose it to the US, did seem like it was being sent home.
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Yep, along with the Shackleton, Gannet and Sea Venom - something that's not made in the good 'ole USA (Spitfire aside) don't have the best track record of longevity once over the pond ... :sad:
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Pat Murphy on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 10:53 am

FGR2 wrote:
Tommy wrote:*sigh*

As Geoff said on Twitter - look at that metal ripe for polishing to a chrome standard... :sad: :sad:




Such a shame we have lost it overseas :(

One of the most important historic jet aircraft in RAF history, I wonder how many more we will lose.


Well to quote and Americanism, That Sucks! :sad: Gutted to see the Meteor go. Just as an aside to this. The RNHF seem to have managed to save the Vixen by going civilian with charitable status. It's a pity nobody in the RAF has managed to take this operating model on and save some significant hardware such as the Meteor and others. Maybe it's time to look at the narrow remit of the BBMF, lets face it, the Lancaster and the Dakota is nothing to do with The Battle of Britain anyway. An RAF Memorial flight perhaps. The old Vintage Pair could have been resurrected, as I believe Vampire WZ507 is still for sale? An opportunity missed maybe. Discuss on this thread mods or maybe a new thread on it's own?
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby st24 on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 12:27 pm

Pat Murphy wrote: Maybe it's time to look at the narrow remit of the BBMF, lets face it, the Lancaster and the Dakota is nothing to do with The Battle of Britain anyway. An RAF Memorial flight perhaps.
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Has long been suggested; after all only the Spitfire IIa has any relevance to the BoB in real terms.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Russ on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 12:30 pm

Great shame. Lovely unique aircraft and great display too. Will be missed.

Have to agree that in the circumstances, you have to question the 100k that's gone into keeping a static Vulcan off limits to the public recently. :roll:
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Ouragan on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 1:05 pm

Who in the UK, given the current uncertainties, would look to purchase a jet warbird with an intention to earn revenue by using it for display purposes? I believe a Jet Provost T.5A with CofA permit was sold recently by one UK owner to another for £13,500, which is less than you can buy a second hand car for these days. Sadly, I don't think WA591 will be the last to leave our shores.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Ryan. on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 1:24 pm

Russ wrote: Have to agree that in the circumstances, you have to question the 100k that's gone into keeping a static Vulcan off limits to the public recently. :roll:


Although I agree, starting any kind of fund wouldn't attract anywhere near the money the Vulcan can pull, static or otherwise.

Also, an eventual ground operating Vulcan, isn't going to get the volley of paperwork every flying classic jet is about to receive.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby wv383 on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 4:17 pm

Ryan. wrote:
Russ wrote: Have to agree that in the circumstances, you have to question the 100k that's gone into keeping a static Vulcan off limits to the public recently. :roll:


Although I agree, starting any kind of fund wouldn't attract anywhere near the money the Vulcan can pull, static or otherwise.

Also, an eventual ground operating Vulcan, isn't going to get the volley of paperwork every flying classic jet is about to receive.


Let's face it, yes the Vulcan dragged in a huge amount of money but that was only partly due to the fact that it is a Vulcan. With the wall to wall publicity it both generated and received, even those who hadn't heard of it before got caught up in it and dug their hands into their pockets. If someone wanted to raise funds for another aircraft, whatever it might be, the same amount of publicity would also have to be generated, not simply a Just Giving page or similar. At the moment that idea is akin to sticking a classified ad in an aviation magazine and saying "Give us your money". It needs massive publicity to a much wider audience.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Russ on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 4:28 pm

I wasn't suggesting the people who donated to the Vulcan static "survival" should have clubbed together to save the Meteor. I was merely trying to put it into perspective. The Vulcan will always have more appeal even though it's grounded and off-limits, but arguably the Meteor is more historically significant.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby FGR2 on Mon 13 Mar 2017, 6:26 pm

Ouragan wrote:Who in the UK, given the current uncertainties, would look to purchase a jet warbird with an intention to earn revenue by using it for display purposes? I believe a Jet Provost T.5A with CofA permit was sold recently by one UK owner to another for £13,500, which is less than you can buy a second hand car for these days. Sadly, I don't think WA591 will be the last to leave our shores.


It does seem like the events of Shoreham have now made classic jets unattractive to operators. I believe someone in the UK was looking to buy the T7 and Anson around that time. I am only glad I went to Farnborough Airshow in 2014, which had the CAF Meteor T7 and Vampire pairs display, the Canberra PR9, and Vulcan in the flying display. Also had the nice Royal Navy Hunter on static.
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Arthur Tee on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 5:46 pm

Avro Anson WD413 (G-VROE) flew into its new home this afternoon - Sleap, Shropshire.

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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby st24 on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 6:25 pm

Arthur Tee wrote:Avro Anson WD413 (G-VROE) flew into its new home this afternoon - Sleap, Shropshire.

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That's great news! :yahoo:
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby Xm657 on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 6:14 pm

Ouragan wrote:Who in the UK, given the current uncertainties, would look to purchase a jet warbird with an intention to earn revenue by using it for display purposes?


Robert Pleming?
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Re: Classic Air Force

Postby rob68 on Sat 02 Dec 2017, 8:02 pm

Today at Coventry for the WR963 photoshoot, the twin Pionneer had been moved on to the tarmac, work was taking place to remove the engines. Overheard that it and the DC6 dinner were going, whatever that means
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