Blackpool Airshow 2016

Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby eddywinch82 on Tue 26 Jul 2016, 7:24 pm

I wouldn't call that lineup pathetic !! I am particularly looking forward to seeing the BBMF Lancaster Spitfire and Hurricane taking off from Blackpool Airport in the distance, from the end of Central or North Pier. Especially seeing the Lancaster with it's gear still down, then hopefully a three ship arrival from behind Blackpool Tower. The Chipmunk is a rare display item nowadays, I am looking forwards to seeing that too. Also the Global Stars Team and the Schweizer 300C 'Otto' Helicopter too, which are display items, which have never been seen at an Airshow in the Northwest of England. So clearly the organizers have thought about enthusiasts as well as the general public. I do hope the Airshow grows in stature, but I am really looking forwards to the Airshow :-) :-)
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby bradallen516 on Tue 26 Jul 2016, 9:54 pm

Looking forward to red arrows obviously, also looking forward to bbmf especially knowing the Lancaster is back and RAF typhoon. Team raven and global stars will amaze people, the chipmunk will be nice to startup the airshow off :smile: :tongue:
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby cg_341 on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 9:48 am

jason82wells wrote:The trouble is, they're catering for the 90-95% of the people who will attend the show (joe public) & not the enthusiasts.

How dare they not cater just for that 5%!

What. A. Muppet.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby jason82wells on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 5:21 pm

Hampshire Aviation wrote:What. A. Muppet.


I don't recall suggesting it should cater exclusively for the enthusiast, you read way too far into that - I'm fully aware of how it all works & simply meant they're pitching it at joe public & filling it with stuff like that I'm not particularly interested in seeing.

Anyway, apologies for having an opinion in 2106, how dare me :surrender:
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby eddywinch82 on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 5:46 pm

Maybe Jason, The organizers have a limited budget, and would like to get more Diverse Aircraft, but simply can't afford it !? But as I say, I think the organizers have thought of the enthusiasts aswell, with rare display items like the Chipmunk and the Schweizer 300C 'Otto' Helicopter. It's not the biggest lineup, but it's very good for a free Airshow. I agree with you though, you are perfectly entitled to your own opinion about the lineup, as much as anyone else who goes on this forum.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby jason82wells on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 5:52 pm

eddywinch82 wrote:Maybe Jason, The organizers have a limited budget, and would like to get more Diverse Aircraft, but simply can't afford it !? But as I say, I think the organizers have thought of the enthusiasts aswell, with rare display items like the Chipmunk and the Schweizer 300C 'Otto' Helicopter. It's not the biggest lineup, but it's very good for a free Airshow. I agree with you though, you are perfectly entitled to your own opinion about the lineup, as much as anyone else who goes on this forum.


eddywinch82 - I think they've got whatever they can get their hands on haven't they but there's certainly a mix. Personally I go for the military assets so in years gone by either here or at Southport we'd have a Chinook, Black Cats, JP, Hunter (they're no doubt still off limits), parachute team. Just seems to be lacking but that's probably down to the times we live in as much as anything else.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby eddywinch82 on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 6:02 pm

I agree a Classic Jet would be nice. I remember a few years ago at Blackpool Airshow, Hunter Miss Demeanour displaying, it would have also been nice to see B17 Sally B display again, which was one of the highlights of the Airshow last year. The Strikemaster which is displaying this year, is a civilian Jet Provost I believe ?
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 9:51 am

Dreadful line-up, even by Blackpool's dismal standards. And even for 2016. As has been said above, it's purely a case of filling the show with as many cheap acts as possible.

Still, the general public will turn up, drink their tins of lager, eat their candy floss and it'll be more of the same in 2017...
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Pringles on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 11:08 am

eddywinch82 wrote:The Strikemaster which is displaying this year, is a civilian Jet Provost I believe ?

It's a civilian operated example of the Strikemaster, which was the armed attack type based on the JP that had some success on the export market. Mark Petrie's Strikie is an ex-Oman Air Force jet, and wears those markings accordingly
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 11:09 am

eddywinch82 wrote:The Strikemaster which is displaying this year, is a civilian Jet Provost I believe ?

Depends.
There are 3 proper Strikemasters still flying on the UK register thatI know of ( unless they've changed recently ) : G-MXPH , G-RSAF & G-SOAF
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Mooshie1956 on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 12:54 pm

Dan O'Hagan wrote:Dreadful line-up, even by Blackpool's dismal standards. And even for 2016. As has been said above, it's purely a case of filling the show with as many cheap acts as possible.

Still, the general public will turn up, drink their tins of lager, eat their candy floss and it'll be more of the same in 2017...


I wold totally agree with that. Seeing as Blackpool like to think of themselves as the number 1 UK seaside resort they could do a lot better, you only have to look at Bournemouth and what they can do as a free show, even Southport only charge around £7, I'm sure there's plenty more examples. I live about 45 mins drive from Blackpool and I don't think they've ever made me feel like wow I must go this year. Southport on the other hand, this year I'll be there both Friday night and Sunday.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby ericbee123 on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 1:29 pm

Mooshie1956 wrote:
Dan O'Hagan wrote:Dreadful line-up, even by Blackpool's dismal standards. And even for 2016. As has been said above, it's purely a case of filling the show with as many cheap acts as possible.

Still, the general public will turn up, drink their tins of lager, eat their candy floss and it'll be more of the same in 2017...


I wold totally agree with that. Seeing as Blackpool like to think of themselves as the number 1 UK seaside resort they could do a lot better, you only have to look at Bournemouth and what they can do as a free show, even Southport only charge around £7, I'm sure there's plenty more examples. I live about 45 mins drive from Blackpool and I don't think they've ever made me feel like wow I must go this year. Southport on the other hand, this year I'll be there both Friday night and Sunday.


Surely Bournemouth and Southport do it, to create the busiest ( or one of the busiest ) weekends of the year.

Blackpool will be busy every weekend, mainly down to the sun being out, rather than any other 'attraction'. There will be more people coming to Blackpool that weekend for the Punk Festival than to specifically watch an airshow -- so therefore why do they need anything more than The Reds, the BBMF and a Typhoon -- that alone is good enough for a free airshow for the people, most of whom will be in Blackpool that weekend anyway, airshow or no airshow.

If the airshow was at Squires Gate or at Stanley Park Aerodrome ( now the Zoo ) both of which were airshow locations in the past, then you would need a better line-up to get the crowds ( and you would have to charge them ).

I would suggest the 'annual Blackpool Airshow since 1909' claim is more of a reason that Blackpool still has some sort of airshow annually, more than trying to get people to come to Blackpool -- which will happen anyway if the weather is nice -- so it is done as cost effectively as possible.

EDIT -- and another thing, most of these 'specials' like the Airshow, Red Arrows display at Pleasure Beach in May, World Fireworks Championships, etc, are actually heavily attended by locals ( Blackpool has a population of 145,000+ [ one of biggest towns in the North West ], which rises to 200,000+ if you take the rest of the Fylde Coast and a lot of these go to the 'specials' -- and their council tax pays for most of these 'specials' anyway. ) - I think I am fishing a sea match about a mile away from the Airshow this year on the Sunday -- so will probably go fish that and watch the airshow from there ( and walk down from home with my granddaughter on the Monday - like loads of other Blackpool residents ).
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 2:31 pm

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Mooshie1956 wrote:
Dan O'Hagan wrote:Dreadful line-up, even by Blackpool's dismal standards. And even for 2016. As has been said above, it's purely a case of filling the show with as many cheap acts as possible.

Still, the general public will turn up, drink their tins of lager, eat their candy floss and it'll be more of the same in 2017...


I wold totally agree with that. Seeing as Blackpool like to think of themselves as the number 1 UK seaside resort they could do a lot better, you only have to look at Bournemouth and what they can do as a free show, even Southport only charge around £7, I'm sure there's plenty more examples. I live about 45 mins drive from Blackpool and I don't think they've ever made me feel like wow I must go this year. Southport on the other hand, this year I'll be there both Friday night and Sunday.


Surely Bournemouth and Southport do it, to create the busiest ( or one of the busiest ) weekends of the year.


And Swansea.....who had crowds of over 200,000 this year despite the weather not exactly being brilliant.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Chris G on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 8:06 pm

Dan O'Hagan wrote:Dreadful line-up, even by Blackpool's dismal standards. And even for 2016. As has been said above, it's purely a case of filling the show with as many cheap acts as possible.

Still, the general public will turn up, drink their tins of lager, eat their candy floss and it'll be more of the same in 2017...


Totally agree it's pants this year compared to last year. They were able to afford the Vulcan last year and 'Sally B'. The piers will however be open, but the display line is pushed back another 100m i'm led to believe.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby banksy on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 9:01 pm

Avoided the Vulcan last year?

I don't think so...it took me 4 hours to get there from Chester and we just arrived in time to see it coming in and displaying! It was the main reason we went!

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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby eddywinch82 on Fri 29 Jul 2016, 5:53 am

I think Chris G, meant to say "afford" rather than "avoid". So the display line has been pushed back 100 meters ? I thought as the display is over the sea, the post Shoreham rules are different for display flying ? I may be wrong though ! So I will definately be watching the Airshow, from the end of Central or North Pier again.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby bradallen516 on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 2:08 pm

Any more possible additions for this years Blackpool airshow,hoping for a wow aircraft that could be aadded
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby ericbee123 on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 2:24 pm

bradallen516 wrote:Any more possible additions for this years Blackpool airshow,hoping for a wow aircraft that could be aadded


Don't tell anyone but my friend who flys a PA-28 out of Blackpool Airport was saying The Reds had rang him up about flying in formation with him next weekend.

He was on his 5th pint though.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby jason82wells on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 9:07 am

bradallen516 wrote:Any more possible additions for this years Blackpool airshow,hoping for a wow aircraft that could be aadded


See my response last weekend, I think the chances are very slim. The organisers probably think they've already got plenty in, which as you'll see in my posts differs to my thoughts!
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby ikarus on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 10:50 am

To be honest , the flying line up is already arranged and sorted. There will probably be no additions as this would impact the existing running order.

The local council don't pamper for aircraft enthusiasts/aircraft photographers , they are only interested in entertaining the rank and filed masses of " joe public" , the majority wont be bothered what or which aircraft are flying as long as a show is put on :grin:

Remember this is a free airshow so the organiser will be happy with what they can get for limited funds available.

As the airport is less busy since re opening , the powers that be , obviously cannot figure out that they could actually have a limited display at the airport , make use of the grass areas to park cars , and make some cash ! Yes the fire coverage on a normal day is low but it can be upped for one off events if you put you hand in your pocket and subsidise it ..... just needs some planning
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby bradallen516 on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 10:04 pm

When will the lineup be updated with the schweizer 330 c in there??
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby Paullee17 on Tue 02 Aug 2016, 9:18 am

bradallen516 wrote:When will the lineup be updated with the schweizer 330 c in there??


This site seems to be the most up to date.

http://www.liveblackpool.info/recreatio ... r-show.php
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby jason82wells on Thu 04 Aug 2016, 6:22 am

Does anyone have inside info on where the Typhoon/Reds will base from this weekend & if so, any times?

Reds haven't updated their transit times for a few weeks (I think they've been on leave this week) & the Typhoon twitter pages have been quiet too.
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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby ericbee123 on Thu 04 Aug 2016, 11:41 am

jason82wells wrote:Does anyone have inside info on where the Typhoon/Reds will base from this weekend & if so, any times?

Reds haven't updated their transit times for a few weeks (I think they've been on leave this week) & the Typhoon twitter pages have been quiet too.


NOTAM has Reds at Liverpool on Saturday night.

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Re: Blackpool Airshow 2016

Postby jason82wells on Thu 04 Aug 2016, 12:46 pm

ericbee123 wrote:
jason82wells wrote:Does anyone have inside info on where the Typhoon/Reds will base from this weekend & if so, any times?

Reds haven't updated their transit times for a few weeks (I think they've been on leave this week) & the Typhoon twitter pages have been quiet too.


NOTAM has Reds at Liverpool on Saturday night.

FORMATION TRANSIT BY RED ARROWS ACFT ROUTING:
ALDERGROVE 543927N 0061257W 1800
VCY OF ALDERGROVE 544547N 0061747W 1802
S KIRKOSWALD 551854N 0044656W 1812
SE DALMELLINGTON 551833N 0042127W 1815
SW INNERLEITHEN 553633N 0030622W 1823
WADDELSCAIRN MOOR 554912N 0024322W 1826
NE LONGNIDDRY 555927N 0025135W 1828
FLYPAST EDINBURGH CASTLE 555655N 0031156W 1830
W EDINBURGH 555554N 0031859W 1831
S BALERNO 555045N 0031853W 1832
FLYPAST PEEBLES 553900N 0031057W 1835
BRAKEHOPE RIG 553259N 0030741W 1836
OVERSEA 540748N 0032151W 1851
LIVERPOOL 531955N 0025057W 1858

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TO: 06 Aug 2016 19:08 GMT (20:08 BST)


Thanks so much, so reading that its an overnight stop in Liverpool eta 6.58pm?
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