Tommy wrote:I risk opening a colossal can of worms, and for that people have my apologies, but I'm interested, given that the polls are now ishowing a significant swing towards public perception that voting to leave the EU was a bad move, I'm interested to see whether there are any people who supported Brexit who now have second thoughts?
I hasten to add that this isn't said with any condescending overtones. I'm not looking to trap people and say "hahaha! We were right! haaaaaa!" That's just immature, and boring. I'm more interested in a nuanced discussion. I think anyone prepared to admit their mind has changed is far more worthy of my (and many others') respect than religious fanatics who are unmoved by anything or anyone because they fear they'll look "weak" if they change their mind.
Likewise, there may be many legitimate reasons for having second thoughts; realisations that things that were promised were lies, or maybe that the idea of Brexit is still appealing but is being so terribly run by those in charge?
Nearly a year into the two year Article 50 process, and I'm wondering how people feel that the first 12 months have progressed. And, indeed, what their confidence in the success of the next 12 months?
Likewise, to anyone who followed the remain case, and are now supportive of leaving the EU.
Tommy wrote: or maybe that the idea of Brexit is still appealing but is being so terribly run by those in charge?
Brevet Cable wrote:Voted to stay in & would vote the same now.
Most people I know voted to leave, primarily down to controling immigration & job protection.
A large number of them now say they'd vote to remain if they had the chance....not because their views have changed, but because they say they had too little information from both sides as to what would be involved ( many of them thought we'd default to joining the EFTA or EEA ) and they don't trust those from the UK currently conducting the negotiations ( most - if not all - of whom are hard-line anti-EU ) to get the best deal for the UK.
Finningley Boy wrote: While we were taking part in the passing of EU laws I understand the British Government have attempted to veto a number of EU rules which were implemented without a hint of concern for the British objections.
Finningley Boy wrote:But a lot of people want to remain because they quite look forward to the end of UK sovereignty
Finningley Boy wrote:The only reason Brexit will be difficult is because the EU choose to make it so.
Finningley Boy wrote:While we were taking part in the passing of EU laws I understand the British Government have attempted to veto a number of EU rules which were implemented without a hint of concern for the British objections. But a lot of people want to remain because they quite look forward to the end of UK sovereignty, always dressed up as economic concern of course. The only reason Brexit will be difficult is because the EU choose to make it so. You have to ask, just why are they so keen to force us to reverse our position?
jalfrezi wrote:Finningley Boy wrote:While we were taking part in the passing of EU laws I understand the British Government have attempted to veto a number of EU rules which were implemented without a hint of concern for the British objections. But a lot of people want to remain because they quite look forward to the end of UK sovereignty, always dressed up as economic concern of course. The only reason Brexit will be difficult is because the EU choose to make it so. You have to ask, just why are they so keen to force us to reverse our position?
It's called democracy, if you vote against the majority that generally means you end up on the losing side - like the Brexit referendum. There are circumstances where the UK can veto, but they generally need two more large countries to support them.
Our contributions make up around 17% of the EU budget, so of course they don't want us to leave. Let's hope our leaving doesn't mean the end of the EU, because if the EU collapses I can guarantee our economy will be dragged down with it, whether we're in or out.
....the EU has demonstrated in many cases to have o border controls. Far too many young 'men' as opposed to Women and Children will fight to the death at Calais to get to the UK.
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