Should we stay or should we go now?

Should the UK leave the EU

Yes
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56%
No
114
44%
 
Total votes : 259

Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby DonaldGrump on Thu 13 Apr 2017, 8:40 pm

TKK 140 wrote:The consequences of the EU and President Hollande

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... ms-france/

Apologies you'll need premium to read the whole article but you can get the drift from the teaser of the rise of extreme right and left wing politics.



So it is looking likely that the French election could be another nail in the coffin of the EU, the Swedish PM saying no more mass immigration. All this arguing over the economy and so on, waste of hot air because the whole thing is knackered...capput...Donald ducked, sooner it dies the better then we can all perhaps get on with life.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby AlexC on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 8:11 am

Dan O'Hagan wrote:But. We. Haven't. Left. Yet.


But. What do you mean by 'We' exactly? Just asking nicely.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby cg_341 on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 8:25 am

The UK perhaps? What else could he mean?!
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby TKK 140 on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 8:38 am

DonaldGrump wrote:
TKK 140 wrote:The consequences of the EU and President Hollande

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... ms-france/

Apologies you'll need premium to read the whole article but you can get the drift from the teaser of the rise of extreme right and left wing politics.



So it is looking likely that the French election could be another nail in the coffin of the EU, the Swedish PM saying no more mass immigration. All this arguing over the economy and so on, waste of hot air because the whole thing is knackered...capput...Donald ducked, sooner it dies the better then we can all perhaps get on with life.



The Economy is important as it concentrates minds at Government level with here and in the EU, when we get nearer leaving and the reality of it truly hits the politicians thats when the debate will get interesting. Business will apply the pressure as they control economies in Western Europe not Governments. It was so often claimed that we would see significant woe and moves of business offshore beginning last June.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 9:14 am

Hampshire Aviation wrote:The UK perhaps? What else could he mean?!


Indeed. This thread really is the home of the hard-of-thinking.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby DonaldGrump on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 9:48 am

Dan O'Hagan wrote:
Hampshire Aviation wrote:The UK perhaps? What else could he mean?!


Indeed. This thread really is the home of the hard-of-thinking.


Nice to see a well thought out response that adds to the debate on this thread.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby AlexC on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 10:13 am

None taken. I was assuming that you're from the Irish Republic? Seems not.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby AlexC on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 10:38 am

DonaldGrump wrote:Nice to see a well thought out response that adds to the debate on this thread.


That's just his standard modus operandi. You'll get used to it if you stick around long enough.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby TKK 140 on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 11:43 am

DonaldGrump wrote:
Dan O'Hagan wrote:
Hampshire Aviation wrote:The UK perhaps? What else could he mean?!


Indeed. This thread really is the home of the hard-of-thinking.


Nice to see a well thought out response that adds to the debate on this thread.



Well thought out? No! Just shot himself in both feet, as he abides here. :facepalm: Nothing better than self depreciation in humour. :lol:
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby UKTopgun on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 3:41 pm

*self-deprecation.

Self-depreciation will be apt to describe the UK economy post Brexit I would say.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby TKK 140 on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 4:47 pm

UKTopgun wrote:*self-deprecation.

Self-depreciation will be apt to describe the UK economy post Brexit I would say.


Good one that.
No offence but you did say you did'nt understand and you missed the obvious pun on words based on the economics subject discussed here over the last day or so.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby UKTopgun on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 7:12 pm

Oh yes, the 'obvious pun on words', missed that totally :whistle:
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 9:36 am

Sounds like the nation's suicide bid is about to produce another political corpse:



Meanwhile:

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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:01 am

Rumour is that she's calling a snap GE for June 8th.
We shall see.


Edited to say.....rumour confirmed.
So much for fixed-term Parliaments.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby DerekF on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:15 am

Brevet Cable wrote:So much for fixed-term Parliaments.


Another David Cameron policy thrown away when it suits.

An election is not what we need at the moment and trying to shift the mess SHE has made of the Brexit negotiations onto the opposition shows May up for precisely what she is. Completely out of her depth.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby john001 on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:24 am

I thought she might announce August 1st at RIAT.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby ericbee123 on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:25 am

Stop moaning. Seems to me that everyone now has a chance.

The Scots can get rid of SNP if they don't really want another IndyRef.

The remainers can vote LibDem.

The leavers can vote Conservative.

The undecided can vote Labour.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby TKK 140 on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:28 am

The £'s rebounded.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:28 am

john001 wrote:I thought she might announce August 1st at RIAT.


My money was on the SWIP team for Scampton.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Chrisse on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 10:41 am

Dan O'Hagan wrote:
My money was on the SWIP team for Scampton.


Actually, I wouldn't rule out the TWISTER duo for Lens :whistle: The team went twice before.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Russ on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 3:40 pm

Back on topic, here's some of the Leave campaigns promises...

- £350m a week for the NHS.
- New trade deals on day one of leaving.
- Turkey joining the EU.
- Free from all EU regulations.
- "Exact same" trade benefits outside the single market.
- EU trade deal within two years.
- Immigration cut and free movement abolished.



Of which not a single one is actually going to happen. Talk about being duped! :facepalm:



Still waiting to hear a single good reason for voting leave (I did ask on this thread a month or so ago).... :tumbleweed:
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 18 Apr 2017, 3:52 pm

Kinnock Junior follows his old man's form for descriptive phrases :
the 'cabal of Brextremists'

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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Tommy on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 5:40 pm

I risk opening a colossal can of worms, and for that people have my apologies, but I'm interested, given that the polls are now showing a significant swing towards public perception that voting to leave the EU was a bad move, I'm interested to see whether there are any people who supported Brexit who now have second thoughts?

I hasten to add that this isn't said with any condescending overtones. I'm not looking to trap people and say "hahaha! We were right! haaaaaa!" That's just immature, and boring. I'm more interested in a nuanced discussion. I think anyone prepared to admit their mind has changed is far more worthy of my (and many others') respect than religious fanatics who are unmoved by anything or anyone because they fear they'll look "weak" if they change their mind.

Likewise, there may be many legitimate reasons for having second thoughts; realisations that things that were promised were lies, or maybe that the idea of Brexit is still appealing but is being so terribly run by those in charge?

Nearly a year into the two year Article 50 process, and I'm wondering how people feel that the first 12 months have progressed. And, indeed, what their confidence in the success of the next 12 months?

Likewise, to anyone who followed the remain case, and are now supportive of leaving the EU.
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby jalfrezi on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 5:53 pm

Tommy, if you were ever to have a super hero/villain name it would definitely be 'The Necromancer'..... :biggrin:
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Re: Should we stay or should we go now?

Postby Tommy on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 6:13 pm

jalfrezi wrote:Tommy, if you were ever to have a super hero/villain name it would definitely be 'The Necromancer'..... :biggrin:


Villain all the way. Make me a cape and you're sold. :up:
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