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Re: President Trump

Postby DonaldGrump on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:52 am

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Dan O'Hagan wrote:A deeply dangerous situation. Risking crossing swords with the Russians, who have a similarly deranged madman in charge, is a recipe for world war.

Trump has still been in the job for less than 100 days, and already he's playing with his military toy box. This isn't an episode of The Apprentice, you thick orange muppet.


I assume being a journalist? you have seen the pictures of those people choking to death?

He is absolutely right to take that airfield out.

World war 3, dont be such a drama queen.


It does seem however that Putin is not the kind of person who would shrug it off and say "good on you fella"

AP are reporting the following from the Russian Defence Ministry -

Russian defence ministry spokesman Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov said that a “complex of measures” to strengthen Syrian air defences will be done shortly to help “protect the most sensitive Syrian infrastructure facilities.”

Konashenkov said “the combat efficiency of the U.S. strike was very low,” adding that only 23 of the 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles reached the Shayrat air base in the province of Homs.

He said it destroyed six MiG-23 fighter jets of the Syrian air force which were under repairs, but didn’t damage other Syrian warplanes at the base.



You have to expect a firm verbal response from Russia and most likely some propaganda to down play the success of the strike.

I dont think Putin or Trump have any intention of getting into a fight with each other, after all MAD is just as much a deterent now as it was during the cold war.
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Re: President Trump

Postby Spiny Norman on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:53 am

Are these WMDs?

Is someone in the Pentagon dusting off a large file last consulted in 2003?
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Re: President Trump

Postby toom317 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:16 pm

RAF4EVER wrote:Who made the USA the worlds policeman? What gives them the right to lay the law down?


Unfortunately all everyone else seem to be able to do, is raise resolutions at the UN and use a lot of words, without actually doing anything. The Russians and Syrians know that nothing will be done against them, and any sanctions imposed won't really hurt the ruling elite. Everyone likes to slag off the USA, while at the same time hoping they will take action.
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Re: President Trump

Postby DonaldGrump on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:30 pm

toom317 wrote:
RAF4EVER wrote:Who made the USA the worlds policeman? What gives them the right to lay the law down?


Unfortunately all everyone else seem to be able to do, is raise resolutions at the UN and use a lot of words, without actually doing anything. The Russians and Syrians know that nothing will be done against them, and any sanctions imposed won't really hurt the ruling elite. Everyone likes to slag off the USA, while at the same time hoping they will take action.



They are far from perfect but I dread to think what kind of hell hole we would live in without them.
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Re: President Trump

Postby TKK 140 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 1:19 pm

toom317 wrote:
RAF4EVER wrote:Who made the USA the worlds policeman? What gives them the right to lay the law down?


Unfortunately all everyone else seem to be able to do, is raise resolutions at the UN and use a lot of words, without actually doing anything. The Russians and Syrians know that nothing will be done against them, and any sanctions imposed won't really hurt the ruling elite. Everyone likes to slag off the USA, while at the same time hoping they will take action.


Good post and very true. At least Putin and Assad know no more weak US administration.
UN is as much use as the League of Nations was in these type of affairs.
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Re: President Trump

Postby lambo17841 on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 8:56 pm

Have to agree with action taken but should have been done back in 2013 but us and America were too worried about another overseas war,problem is now Russia has a firm hold.
My worry is if the next chemical attack comes from a joint Russian and Syrian base what will Trump do then.

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Re: President Trump

Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 9:02 pm

What, you mean a joint Syrian-Russian airbase like Shayrat is......
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Re: President Trump

Postby T_J on Sun 09 Apr 2017, 7:14 pm

parsley wrote:
DonaldGrump wrote:
Dan O'Hagan wrote:A deeply dangerous situation. Risking crossing swords with the Russians, who have a similarly deranged madman in charge, is a recipe for world war.

Trump has still been in the job for less than 100 days, and already he's playing with his military toy box. This isn't an episode of The Apprentice, you thick orange muppet.


I assume being a journalist? you have seen the pictures of those people choking to death?

He is absolutely right to take that airfield out.

World war 3, dont be such a drama queen.


It does seem however that Putin is not the kind of person who would shrug it off and say "good on you fella"

AP are reporting the following from the Russian Defence Ministry -

Russian defence ministry spokesman Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov said that a “complex of measures” to strengthen Syrian air defences will be done shortly to help “protect the most sensitive Syrian infrastructure facilities.”

Konashenkov said “the combat efficiency of the U.S. strike was very low,” adding that only 23 of the 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles reached the Shayrat air base in the province of Homs.

He said it destroyed six MiG-23 fighter jets of the Syrian air force which were under repairs, but didn’t damage other Syrian warplanes at the base.


Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov is just spinning the propaganda. It is his job to downplay the US air strike for all he is worth. The claim of 23 is just ludicrous. It is just dangled out there without further comment and he lets the armchair warriors do the rest. The armchair warriors on the pro-Russian side are already claiming that the Russians shot the rest down. It is classic Soviet era tactics and is just for the masses.

The Maj Gen did make himself look rather silly during the press briefing.

See at 4:20. He states "Both parking places and aircraft were not damaged"



These aircraft that you can see in the Russian UAV footage are old obsolete types placed out on the airfield as decoys. They have been in the same position for at least a decade. You can see them in the same positions/angles on Google Earth historic imagery going back to 2007. They are Sukhoi 7s and a MiG-15 or 17. US intel will have imaged Syrian airfields for years and the decoys will be well known. No planner is going to waste missiles on them. The operational aircraft are in the hardened aircraft shelters.

You can see the Su-7 decoys in the following link. The Su-7s have been out of Syrian service for decades.

https://twitter.com/MiG_Aviator/status/ ... 5293401088

One, possibly two, hardened aircraft shelters were not struck and at least 3 Su-22 Fitters survived.

See following videos and image gallery of MiG-23 and Su-22s destroyed inside the shelters.





http://sputnikimages.com/en/site/search ... eld=author
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Re: President Trump

Postby T_J on Sun 09 Apr 2017, 7:23 pm

Update on the decoy MiG next to the Su-7s. It is a MiG-17.

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Re: President Trump

Postby Spiny Norman on Wed 10 May 2017, 6:06 am

Trump has sacked the FBI chief, explaining it was because of his handling of Hilary Clinton's emails!

Nothing at all to do with the bureau's investigation into his links to Russia of course...
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Re: President Trump

Postby CJS on Tue 16 May 2017, 5:57 am

"Well done Mr President, you just go right on ahead with passing highly classified information to the Russians, it's ok cos y'all can just call it fake news afterwards and everyone will believe you.

Honest."

This joke of a president keeps on doing what he does best - screwing things up...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39931012
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Re: President Trump

Postby Spiny Norman on Tue 16 May 2017, 6:17 am

CJS wrote:"Well done Mr President, you just go right on ahead with passing highly classified information to the Russians, it's ok cos y'all can just call it fake news afterwards and everyone will believe you.

Honest."

This joke of a president keeps on doing what he does best - screwing things up...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39931012


Did Manning not go to jail for leaking information? I wonder if the FBI will one day get to lock him up?
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Re: President Trump

Postby Russ on Tue 16 May 2017, 8:51 am

Surely it can't be long before he goes too far and can be impeached.

It's like a circus in the White House, everyday it's "what's he done now?" :clown: :claypole: :clown: :claypole:
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Re: President Trump

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 16 May 2017, 9:07 am

In a conversation with the Russian foreign minister and Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak in the Oval Office, the president revealed details that could lead to the exposure of a source of information, officials told the Washington Post and the New York Times.

The discussion was about an IS plot. The president reportedly went "off-script", revealing specifics of the plot, thought to centre on the use of laptop computers on aircraft, and the city from which that threat had been detected.
Image caption Donald Trump was highly critical of Hillary Clinton on the issue during the election campaign

The intelligence disclosed came from a US ally and was considered too sensitive to share with other US allies, the papers report.


We're all involved in the 'war on terror'.....but America wants us fighting with one hand tied behind our back.

Others present realised the mistake and scrambled to "contain the damage" by informing the CIA and the National Security Agency (NSA), says the Post.

Mr Trump's actions would not be illegal, as the US president has the authority to declassify information.
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Re: President Trump

Postby CJS on Tue 16 May 2017, 11:58 am

Does that 'declassifying' include doing it 'by mistake' during a meeting with the Russians do you think? :claypole:
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Re: President Trump

Postby Russ on Tue 16 May 2017, 12:04 pm

US National Security Adviser McMaster denied it had happened earlier. But then the Donald recently went on Twitter and admitted it...




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Re: President Trump

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 16 May 2017, 1:08 pm

What's worse, though....the fact that Trump told the Russians about a specific terrorist threat to aircraft, or the fact that US intelligence services wanted to keep it quiet ?
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Re: President Trump

Postby CJS on Tue 16 May 2017, 6:09 pm

The former surely? The U.S. may have had reasons for keeping shtum for now, whereas Trumpy told them when he shouldn't have because he's a stupid orange dipstick who shouldn't be left in charge of a hamster (lest he puts it on his head by mistake), let alone the 'free world' (whatever that nonsense means).

He's a joke, an utter and utterly unfunny joke.
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Re: President Trump

Postby Niallxg on Tue 16 May 2017, 7:46 pm

McMaster would be well advised to read his own book "Dereliction of Duty".
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Re: President Trump

Postby toom317 on Wed 17 May 2017, 7:40 pm

Is Trump a Russian sleeper agent? :dunno:
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Re: President Trump

Postby CJS on Wed 17 May 2017, 8:07 pm

Maybe his hair is?
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Re: President Trump

Postby boff180 on Wed 23 Aug 2017, 7:30 am

Trump takes the next step to becoming a Dictator....

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Re: President Trump

Postby Brevet Cable on Wed 23 Aug 2017, 8:19 am

The only thing I've agreed with him on recently is his comments about Charlottesville.
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Re: President Trump

Postby pbeardmore on Wed 23 Aug 2017, 4:23 pm

Like all of us, I have read and viewed many many articles about Trump. But this interview IMHO sums Trump's character up better than anything else I have seen. And it's not good.

“However bad you think he is, he’s worse”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV7UXp1Yqlw
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Re: President Trump

Postby T_J on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 5:46 pm

Some people have too much time on their hands! Extremely well done!

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