usa vs north korea

usa vs north korea

Postby craig.mason on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 8:10 pm

Should we be worried about North Korea vs North America? Both leaders are talking tough with fingers on the nuclear button. Could they start World War 3?
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Postby Pringles on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 8:16 pm

No.

Also, so many missed capitals :tumbleweed:
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Postby borismorris on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 8:23 pm

Pringles wrote:No.

Also, so many missed capitals :tumbleweed:


Missed capitals?...

I doubt Little Kims army could even hit an island..let alone a capital ;-) :tumbleweed:
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Postby DonaldGrump on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 8:38 pm

I think dear leader will decide not to action the plan he is presented with, using his great wisdom he will elect not to fire for missiles in the direction of Guam.

If however he is an absolute lunatic he will give his permission to fire them at which point I see Trump clobbering them.
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Postby CJS on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 9:12 pm

Pringles wrote:No.

Also, so many missed capitals :tumbleweed:


He doesn't do punctuation. Sorry, but a little bit wouldn't hurt would it?
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Postby cg_341 on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 9:16 pm

A little bit of nuclear war? Sounds pretty painful to me.
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Postby CJS on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 9:44 pm

Nah it'll be fine. The small ones are basically just stun grenades aren't they? :-o

My guess is it'll turn out to be little more than rhetoric. DT has ruled out a pre-emptive strike apparently, which is good.

I do find it slightly ironic that the only nation to have ever used one in anger seems to think it can dictate to everyone else what they can or can't do I must say.
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Postby Dan O'Hagan on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 10:51 pm

Pringles wrote:No.

Also, so many missed capitals :tumbleweed:


Craig's reasons for not using capitals have been well-documented on here in the past. He rightly gets cut some slack.

As for Trump v Kim. Two cheeks of the same arse. Both are certifiable, but only one has a credible, modern arsenal of weapons and the means to deliver them. The bigger issue here will be if and when that ginger pillock's vanity causes him to wipe out Pyongyang, quite how Russia and China respond.

Trump will be impeached at some point. It needs to be very soon indeed. He is the biggest danger to world peace since 1945.

And for God's sake, will someone take his phone away from him?
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Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 11:11 pm

The big difference between the two is that one has a lot of very old, very wise and very astute 'advisors' lurking in the background who are also willing and able to take whatever action is required ( be it a quiet word or something more permanent ) to prevent him doing anything stupid enough to jeopardise the Country........the other one is Trump, who's surrounded himself with clueless advisors who are classed as 'long-term' if they survive in post for longer than a Month.
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Postby Dan O'Hagan on Thu 10 Aug 2017, 11:17 pm

Brevet Cable wrote:The big difference between the two is that one has a lot of very old, very wise and very astute 'advisors' lurking in the background who are also willing and able to take whatever action is required ( be it a quiet word or something more permanent ) to prevent him doing anything stupid enough to jeopardise the Country........the other one is Trump, who's surrounded himself with clueless advisors who are classed as 'long-term' if they survive in post for longer than a Month.


Trump's inner circle is deeply worrying. Hicks, rednecks and nutjobs. There's barely anyone you'd trust to give him a sane, reasoned opinion. Trigger-happy morons in thrall to, and advising another.
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Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 2:56 am

You'd hope that if he ever did look like doing something stupid, some VSOs would have the courage and integrity to stand up on their hind legs and do their damnedest to change his mind.
The only problem is that ( like ours ) too many of them are political animals in their own right who won't want to rock the boat.
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Postby Burleysway on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 12:58 pm

Corbyn: Trump and Kim should get round negotiating table

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40886690
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Postby vulcan558 on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 4:14 pm

Burleysway wrote:Corbyn: Trump and Kim should get round negotiating table

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40886690

About the only solution really.
Korea V USA with Nukes puts them on a pretty level playing field.

Again its past leaders saying they are ten years from making nukes and then in a few years they have them.
Was only a short time ago the so called experts said they have no way of delivering a nuke they are years away from a balistic missle. Again in a short time they have them.

So called experts say then its years before they can shrink the nuke to fit in the missle, again in shorttime they have.

Korea as got nukes and a way of delivering it in a very short time span.

The USA can either talk it out or launch a massive attack of cruise missles and bombing at there nuke production sites.

Failing that if they go hot with nukes the USA could get a good kicking.
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Postby farnboroughrob on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 4:19 pm

I really don't get NK's standpoint. They are a isolated country economically and in a bad shape. They are spending millions of nuclear weapons because they feel a non existent threat from the outside to topple the regime. Neither SC or the US are going to invade NK. The biggest threat would be from a internal uprising and nukes won't help that. Why the hell don't they do the sensible thing and keep their head down and try and improve the peoples lot? :dizzy:
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Postby Alanko on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 4:20 pm

craig.mason wrote:Should we be worried about north korea vs north america both leaders are talking tough with fingers on the nuclear button could they start World War 3


Maybe.
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Postby Spiny Norman on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 4:39 pm

It's a common ploy to deflect attention away from poor domestic performance with foreign policy moves. And few leaders have had as bad a domestic situation as the current President of the USA.

Some of us are old enough to remember watching documentaries about the Cuban Missile Crisis which was only solved by some intelligent thinking by those advising the US President of the time.

So start building your shelters!
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Postby Southendnick on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 5:07 pm

Kim knows not to get China's or the Russians backs up, as they are his economic lifeline, if they stick to the sanctions and turn the screw he will come back to the negotiation table, a deal where more aid is sent in, in return the UN will check out his nuclear facilities, and then it will all start over again in a few years with him expelling the UN inspectors and the circle will start all over again.
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Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 6:10 pm

farnboroughrob wrote:I really don't get NK's standpoint. They are a isolated country economically and in a bad shape. They are spending millions of nuclear weapons because they feel a non existent threat from the outside to topple the regime. Neither SC or the US are going to invade NK. The biggest threat would be from a internal uprising and nukes won't help that.

DPRK are quite rightly worried about the USA's track record for instigating regime change and using spurious reasons for invading other Countries.
Given the American's ( and therefore the West's ) activities in recent years, that mindset is perfectly understandable.
Their thinking for many years is that if they had their own nuclear deterrent it would dissuade America from making any such attempts ( after all, how many nuclear-armed Countries have the Americans invaded recently )
Flawed logic or not, it's understandable.
Granted the conventional weaponry the DPRK have is easily capable ( and in many cases already pre-positioned ) of turning ROK cities such as Seoul into a smoking pile of rubble, but the threat posed by possessing nuclear weapons is still seen as more serious.

From what I've seen reported elsewhere, DPRK have been suffering more food & water shortages than usual over the last couple of years, so it wouldn't surprise me if part of Kim's recent rhetoric is an attempt to increase the amount of aid from the West & the ROK.
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Postby borismorris on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 6:47 pm

I do wonder where Lil' Kim has got his nuke missiles from..

You don't think he had them dug up under Tonys nose in the Iraqi desert do you? ;-) :s :clown:
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Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 7:30 pm

PRC ?
( No, that's not a mis-spelt insult ! :lol: )
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Postby craig.mason on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 1:00 pm

on sky news today
http://news.sky.com/story/guam-resident ... s-10984599
Residents of Guam have been issued with advice on what to do if North Korea launches an attack
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Postby Brevet Cable on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 1:05 pm

The Americans have finally found a use for the millions of 'Duck and cover' booklets left over from the early days of the Cold War, then.
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Postby DonaldGrump on Sun 13 Aug 2017, 12:32 am

craig.mason wrote:on sky news today
http://news.sky.com/story/guam-resident ... s-10984599
Residents of Guam have been issued with advice on what to do if North Korea launches an attack


Fear not Craig, some one like Michelle Obama will take it upon themselves to fly to Pyongyang and reach out to kim wrong un and embrace him with love. He will then see the error of his ways, cease his nuclear mischief for the sake of humanity (nothing to do with the fact he is filling his y fronts because he knows Trump means it), and all will be well.
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Postby Chris IL-76 on Sun 13 Aug 2017, 9:50 am

Faceache is nuts with this stuff. Trump/Kim/Trump/Kim/Cat/Cat/Cat/Cat/ Trump.....
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Postby Brevet Cable on Sun 13 Aug 2017, 12:09 pm

DonaldGrump wrote:nothing to do with the fact he is filling his y fronts because he knows Trump means it

Unfortunately, probably not.
Kim no doubt thinks he can carry on with his usual tactic of making threats then de-escalating them on the assumption that he's dealing with a sane POTUS, but fails to have noticed that Trump seems to be threatening to go to war with just about every Country which disagrees with him.
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