Myrtle Avenue Questions

Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Beeza on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 1:56 pm

I’m planning my first ever visit to Myrtle Avenue on 19th July. I’m staying in a hotel on the south side, so all being well I should be at Myrtle from about 9:00am to 3:00pm, with breaks as required.
A few questions:
Am I right to believe that arrivals will be on 27L at that time?

If the wind is in the ‘wrong’ direction, I think that departures will be from 09R – is anything photographable from Myrtle Av. if this happens? Or do I have to go elsewhere (within walking distance)?

On a cropped sensor camera, will a 16-85 or a 70-300 be most appropriate (I’ll take both, but don’t like changing lenses in the field).


Any help gratefully accepted. I don’t do much stuff at airports – I’m more of a airshow-type.

Thanks.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Red Dragon on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 6:52 pm

Here's a link for you to check times and runway in use (times the runways change etc) etc

I stayed in the Premier Inn on Bath Road, fantastic place to sit back with a brew/ beer and spend the day photographing

http://www.heathrow.com/noise/heathrow-operations/runway-alternation

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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby tankbuster on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 7:06 pm

Beeza wrote:I’m planning my first ever visit to Myrtle Avenue on 19th July. I’m staying in a hotel on the south side, so all being well I should be at Myrtle from about 9:00am to 3:00pm, with breaks as required.
A few questions:
Am I right to believe that arrivals will be on 27L at that time?

If the wind is in the ‘wrong’ direction, I think that departures will be from 09R – is anything photographable from Myrtle Av. if this happens? Or do I have to go elsewhere (within walking distance)?

On a cropped sensor camera, will a 16-85 or a 70-300 be most appropriate (I’ll take both, but don’t like changing lenses in the field).


Any help gratefully accepted. I don’t do much stuff at airports – I’m more of a airshow-type.

Thanks.


If it's a 09 day, you could get a bus or tube from Hatton Cross to terminal 5 (free I think). Not very far to walk to really good 09L photography point. Look at Terminal 5 on Google Maps where it says River Colne you can stand on the top of the bridge or on the bank below
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby jayne_morris on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 9:53 pm

what hotel are you staying at?

if you are at Myrtle ave then i would say use the 70-300, last trip i used a 70-200 with no problems, a five minute walk from Myrtle you have a BP garage with toilets a wild bean cafe with snacks and hot drinks and in the garage there is a range of snacks and cold drinks

across the road to hatton cross tube station and you are in the heathrow free travel zone so if they change rotation part way through the day nip over to hatton cross and hop on the 423,482 or 490 bus to terminal five for free, 423 towards terminal five and the stop is outside bus station near the footbridge if you want the 482 or 490 then the stop for them is in the bus station over towards the station car park

http://www.heathrow.com/file_source/Heathrow/Static/PDF/Transport_and_directions/travel_around_Heathrow.pdf

all the busses on that PDF are free within the free travel zone so from hatton cross you can get to anywhere around heathrow with a free bus ride and a short walk
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Steve Thomson on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 2:19 pm

July is not a good time for photos.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby cg_341 on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 2:56 pm

Why not? :question:
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Big Eric on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 6:09 pm

Steve Thomson wrote:July is not a good time for photos.


What a strange thing to say ! :dizzy:
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby tankbuster on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 6:43 pm

Hampshire Aviation wrote:Why not? :question:


presumably it's far from the best light
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Steve Thomson on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:36 pm

Winter:
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Summer:
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby cg_341 on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:50 pm

But you're stood a lot closer in the second picture, so you have a more underside-y shot anyway.

I hardly think a little bit of a shadow on the underside is a good enough reason to say it's "not a good time for photos".
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Steve Thomson on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:51 pm

Belly shots are another reason to avoid Myrtle.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby AlexC on Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:46 am

Ah, the old winter/summer question again!
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Maisie on Wed 06 Jul 2016, 10:03 am

FWIW, these are taken in late June, yes you get a bit of shadow, but is it really a problem? You could if you wanted, bring the shadows up a bit in LR.

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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Beeza on Wed 20 Jul 2016, 9:01 am

Thanks for all your responses. I had a slight change of plan, which meant I was at Myrtle only for a few hours on Monday morning. Very bright, and very hot, but got some nice snaps. I've no problem with shadows, although the specular reflections at certain angles were a bit of a challenge. I ended up using both the 70-300 and 16-85 lenses - triple-sevens are rather large in the frame at 70mm, and I do like sometimes to include a bit of context.

One disappointing aspect was the amount of litter at the site - I never see litter at popular sites around MAN or LBA.

Once more, thanks for all you help and advice.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby AlexC on Wed 20 Jul 2016, 10:07 am

Beeza wrote:One disappointing aspect was the amount of litter at the site - I never see litter at popular sites around MAN or LBA.


I've regularly seen shocking amounts of litter around Heathrow. Down beyond the petrol station, on the way to the M25 there's a sort of a slip road. Where the ground drops away I've seen vast amounts of litter, I think that a lot of it must be fly tipping. Not far away there's a long lay-by which seems to be a favourite spot for drivers to empty their ashtrays. Big problem. If any of the litter that you saw was dropped by photographers, well that shames us all.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Georgeconna on Wed 20 Jul 2016, 10:11 am

Back in the 90's the worst thing I saw there was an middle aged 'lady' Sitting down spotting for a few hours. Strange I thought and as I sat talking to a few other spotters this 'lady' got up walked to the Hedge and whilst standing relieved Himself in font of all. My first encounter with one on these type of folk.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby AlexC on Wed 20 Jul 2016, 10:44 am

Thanks George, that image is going to be with me all day! :sick: But that reminds me that when I was very young, and extremely naive I encountered what I took to be three of the ugliest women that I'd ever seen in a pub on Woolwich Common. Took me some time to realise that they were not women!
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby parsley on Tue 26 Jul 2016, 6:53 pm

Georgeconna wrote:Back in the 90's the worst thing I saw there was an middle aged 'lady' Sitting down spotting for a few hours. Strange I thought and as I sat talking to a few other spotters this 'lady' got up walked to the Hedge and whilst standing relieved Himself in font of all. My first encounter with one on these type of folk.


There was a fairly well known of local LHR spotter in the 80/90's who had the "op" (silent ch) after the various hormone/steroid injections etc.....picked up the nickname of Tootsie
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Paul_Reflex on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 4:32 pm

This thread seems to have taken on a bit of a nasty transphobic theme. It's amazing what is and isn't acceptable around here.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Big Eric on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 5:58 pm

That's true, but hey ! - apparently I'm not half the man that my mother was .............according to Dad................. :lmao:
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Paul_Reflex on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 6:22 pm

Big Eric wrote:That's true, but hey ! - apparently I'm not half the man that my mother was .............according to Dad................. :lmao:


Words fail me.
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Re: Myrtle Avenue Questions

Postby Big Eric on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 6:28 pm

Paul, lighten up a bit - I'm just having a laugh, much like some of the previous posters in this thread........
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