- "Fairground Distraction" - UKAR reports on the Saturday running of this year's Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford.
Luke28 wrote:What an absolute nail on the head article. Does the opinion of this forum actually carry any power or does it just get shrugged off?
Brevet Cable wrote:Just one small point , though.....
Dan may want to go and do some 'number-crunching' & compare the participation lists of previous years with this year......it may then cause him to reconsider his statement :
PA-28s, Jet Provosts, the Red Star Rebels. Aircraft which would pass by unnoticed at a small airshow, here used shamelessly to bulk out the thinnest static in RIAT history.
I did so earlier & was surprised by the results.
Easy.....it's 'cos they're Welsh !!Rule 27 wrote:Out of interest, why so much "hate" for the Red Star Rebels? Surely a Cold War-era jet aircraft should be of interest?!
boff180 wrote:We have compared, this year 37% of the static were civilian aircraft. And the total number of civilians on static was an unprecedented record over the past 11 years.
Seen the graphs ( and I note some people disputing them )boff180 wrote:Ours was done off logs of what actually turned up on the ground and it is the complete opposite. The graphs are in the RIAT section.
Rule 27 wrote:Out of interest, why so much "hate" for the Red Star Rebels? Surely a Cold War-era jet aircraft should be of interest?!
DeltaPapa wrote:I wasn't here but the article was a good read. The only thing I would question is....'equalising the quality of the display is probably something VTST should look at'.
In this day and age that would more likely led to Kevs display being dumbed down and none of us would want that!
pb643 wrote:Speaking for myself , the only reason I came away feeling I had had a pretty good day was because my expectations had sunk so low over the last few months, that I was expecting an all out catastrophe. That left me able to enjoy a show that was a shadow of RIAT 2012.
"On the evidence of RIAT 2013 - from the troubled build up to the show experience on Saturday - I'd have to think long and hard before I'm prepared to commit another £49 for a day-specific ticket next July"
tu16 wrote:Can someone from RIAT confirm if this, much mentioned, fact is true. I find it hard to believe that the SWHF would put it on their website if at least a quote hadn't been requested, especially as, at one time, it looked as though the Viggen would do a UK tour at Waddo, Yeovilton & RIAT.
If you think it should have been booked regardless, fair enough. But I think that to say the SWHF were not approached for a quote could be wide of the mark. Apologises if I am wrong.
Brevet Cable wrote:You've only got to look at the websites & facebook pages of some of the aircraft they eventually booked to see that some of them weren't contacted until the last minute.
Lesson No.1 for DBH -- cast your net wide well in advance of the show......it's easier to narrow selections down than to frantically look for acts at the last minute ( and if you've already made the initial contact earlier you'll have all the info to hand , just in case )
Given the posts on this forum , including those by other members of UKAR staff , I'd say that is a debatable conclusion.PeterR wrote:I think Air Operations division at DBH know what they're doing... With 40 years of experience!
TonyO wrote:You can judge the efficiency of an organisation by looking at the Facebook page of the people they do business with? You should be in consultancy!
There will always been last-minute negotiations, but for many of the aircraft that show up at RIAT the organisation has been going on for the best part of a year. Sequestration also played a part too, no-one really knew how the U.S. armed services would react which no doubt screwed up many plans.
Brevet Cable wrote: Last minute negotiations , yes......but my point was that they should have made contact with the various operators at the outset , if only to have a pool of 'displays' available in case they needed to make some last-minute additions or changes.
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