June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Flare Path on Wed 16 May 2018, 12:42 pm

Balls. Just purchased my ticket this morning. :grin:

Vampire (VPG) and P47 could be sourced, but that would still leave us a few short.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Wed 16 May 2018, 12:49 pm

Flare Path wrote:Balls. Just purchased my ticket this morning. :grin:

Vampire (VPG) and P47 could be sourced, but that would still leave us a few short.


Neither of which would fit the naval theme.

It would be nice to see the modern FAA represented as in previous events. A Merlin and/or a Wildcat would show very well.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Jakub.Zurek on Wed 16 May 2018, 12:57 pm

Flare Path wrote:Vampire (VPG) and P47 could be sourced, but that would still leave us a few short.


VPG I believe are hoping to do some air displays this year so would be very welcome. Not a direct link to the theme, but can always represent the lineage of the Sea Vampire and Sea Venom.

Considering the Skyraider is also most likely a doubt, then the P-47 would do very nicely! Although the only link to the Navy theme that I could find is that it shares its powerplant with the Corsair and Hellcat.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby vulcanshammer on Wed 16 May 2018, 12:57 pm

Shame to have these cancellations :( Do we know the destination of the sold Seafire? Also I can't see one displaying anywhere this year now, is it the only one flying?
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Flare Path on Wed 16 May 2018, 12:58 pm

Wrexham Mackem wrote:
Flare Path wrote:Balls. Just purchased my ticket this morning. :grin:

Vampire (VPG) and P47 could be sourced, but that would still leave us a few short.


Neither of which would fit the naval theme.


Indeed, neither wear naval markings. But both aircraft have connections to a 'naval theme', perhaps the P47 more loosely out the two.

Jakub.Zurek wrote:
Flare Path wrote:Vampire (VPG) and P47 could be sourced, but that would still leave us a few short.


VPG I believe are hoping to do some air displays this year so would be very welcome. Not a direct link to the theme, but can always represent the lineage of the Sea Vampire and Sea Venom.


They are booked for the Midlands Air Festival this weekend, all being well.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby pb643 on Wed 16 May 2018, 1:06 pm

DaveBr wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:It was flying again after that incident - it made a few appearances at Old Warden in 2015.


Also flew at the September Battle of Britain show at Duxford in 2015.

Thanks for the update. No idea if it is still in the UK then?
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Wed 16 May 2018, 1:20 pm

Jakub.Zurek wrote:
Flare Path wrote:Vampire (VPG) and P47 could be sourced, but that would still leave us a few short.


VPG I believe are hoping to do some air displays this year so would be very welcome. Not a direct link to the theme, but can always represent the lineage of the Sea Vampire and Sea Venom.

Considering the Skyraider is also most likely a doubt, then the P-47 would do very nicely! Although the only link to the Navy theme that I could find is that it shares its powerplant with the Corsair and Hellcat.


Well, I'll concede the Vampire, as it did the first carrier landing by a jet. The P-47 - tenuous! :smile:

They are two displays that would enhance any airshow, it would just be nice, IMHO, to have the naval theme as an immersive one.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Wed 16 May 2018, 1:31 pm

pb643 wrote:
DaveBr wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:It was flying again after that incident - it made a few appearances at Old Warden in 2015.


Also flew at the September Battle of Britain show at Duxford in 2015.

Thanks for the update. No idea if it is still in the UK then?

The Seafire for sale is Air Leasing's Mk.III.

The Kennet Seafire XVII is, as I understand it, at Old Warden in pieces/under restoration in the hangars on the far side of the airfield.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby pb643 on Wed 16 May 2018, 2:27 pm

LN Strike Eagle wrote:
pb643 wrote:
DaveBr wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:It was flying again after that incident - it made a few appearances at Old Warden in 2015.


Also flew at the September Battle of Britain show at Duxford in 2015.

Thanks for the update. No idea if it is still in the UK then?

The Seafire for sale is Air Leasing's Mk.III.

The Kennet Seafire XVII is, as I understand it, at Old Warden in pieces/under restoration in the hangars on the far side of the airfield.


Thank you.

Interesting the Bearcat has gone, if it not back for Legends, it will seem very odd.

An aircraft that doesn't seem to have been to the UK in a long while, the French Sea Fury with smokewinders (Christian Jacquard?) not dreadfully authentic, but a beautiful display.

Maybe the other European Avenger based in Switzerland? Any Skyraider will do, beautiful great beast of a thing. :grin:
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby vulcanshammer on Wed 16 May 2018, 2:45 pm

vulcanshammer wrote:Shame to have these cancellations :( Do we know the destination of the sold Seafire? Also I can't see one displaying anywhere this year now, is it the only one flying?


Hi guys sorry to repeat, just wondering if anyone could answer my questions? I'd love to see a Seafire as I haven't seen one for a very long time!
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Jakub.Zurek on Wed 16 May 2018, 2:55 pm

The Air Leasing Seafire III is for sale but afaik has not been sold yet. However, I believe it is likely to not take part in the display season because of this.

Kennet's Seafire XVII is in bits undergoing restoration.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby vulcanshammer on Wed 16 May 2018, 2:58 pm

Jakub.Zurek wrote:The Air Leasing Seafire III is for sale but afaik has not been sold yet. However, I believe it is likely to not take part in the display season because of this.

Kennet's Seafire XVII is in bits undergoing restoration.


Thanks Jakub, fingers crossed it is sold to a UK buyer who still wishes to display her! Any news on when the Kennet one is likely to be restored or perhaps they don't know themselves!
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby pb643 on Wed 16 May 2018, 3:23 pm

Jakub.Zurek wrote:The Air Leasing Seafire III is for sale but afaik has not been sold yet. However, I believe it is likely to not take part in the display season because of this.

Kennet's Seafire XVII is in bits undergoing restoration.


Just checked the CAA website and the Kennet Seafire is now listed as owned by a private owner at Old Warden Park. I presume this indicates a change in ownership?
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby DaveBr on Wed 16 May 2018, 3:28 pm

pb643 wrote:Just checked the CAA website and the Kennet Seafire is now listed as owned by a private owner at Old Warden Park. I presume this indicates a change in ownership?


Why would you presume that? It is registered to Tim Manna, as it has been since 2001. Tim Manna is a Director of Kennet Aviation Ltd.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Kipperooni on Wed 16 May 2018, 5:05 pm

The Seafire was found to have excessive cracking on the firewall (common problem with the Griffin powered seafire). A new firewall has had to be sourced/manufactured.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Aquarious on Wed 16 May 2018, 5:50 pm

Jakub.Zurek wrote:The aircraft list on the event page on Facebook has been edited considerably:

Visiting Aircraft:
• Hawker Fury Mk.II
• Consolidated PBY Catalina
• Westland Wasp
• de Havilland Dragon Rapide
• Hawker Nimrod K3661
• Sea Fury T.20
• Stinson Reliant
• AT 6D Texan
• Fairey Swordfish
• Gazelle x3 (one static)
• Bristol Scout
• Grumman F4F Wildcat
• Vought F4U Corsair
• Douglas AD4 Skyraider
• Avro 504K (static)
• Morane Saulnier


Bearcat, Avenger, one of the Nimrods, Seafire all removed :(


Good news, I've just been on the Shuttleworth web site and the four aircraft that you list as removed Jacob all appear to be still there. They may have been removed for a time in error but they were certainly there five minutes ago. :smile:
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Tangoringo on Wed 16 May 2018, 6:25 pm

As you say Aquarius, current list here... ( not cached but current list )

VISITING AIRCRAFT

Sea Fury FB.11
Supermarine Seafire Mk17
Consolidated PBY Catalina
Westland Wasp
de Havilland Dragon Rapide
Hawker Nimrod K3661
Hawker Nimrod Mk.I
Sea Fury T.20
Stinson Reliant
AT 6D Texan
Fairey Swordfish
Gazelle x3 (one static)
Bristol Scout
Grumman F4F Wildcat
Vought F4U Corsair
Grumman F8F Bearcat
Douglas AD4 Skyraider
Grumman Avenger
Avro 504K (static)
Morane Saulnier
COLLECTION AIRCRAFT

Hawker Sea Hurricane 1B
Avro C19 Anson
Hawker Demon
DH82a Tiger Moth
Miles Magister
DH60 Cirrus Moth
Westland Lysander
Gladiator
Sopwith Camel
Sopwith Pup
Sopwith Triplane
Bristol F2B Fighter
Gloster Gladiator
Deperdussin
Avro Triplane IV
Blackburn Monoplane Type ‘D’
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Tom105 on Wed 16 May 2018, 7:12 pm

That not list is not the latest the list, this is from facebook and edited today:
Visiting Aircraft:
• Hawker Fury Mk.II
• Consolidated PBY Catalina
• Westland Wasp
• de Havilland Dragon Rapide
• Hawker Nimrod K3661
• Sea Fury T.20
• Stinson Reliant (static)
• AT 6D Texan
• Fairey Swordfish
• Gazelle x3 (one static)
• Bristol Scout
• Grumman F4F Wildcat
• Vought F4U Corsair
• Douglas AD4 Skyraider
• Avro 504K (static)
• Morane Saulnier

Collection Aircraft:
• Hawker Sea Hurricane 1B
• Avro C19 Anson
• Hawker Demon
• DH82a Tiger Moth
• Miles Magister
• DH60 Cirrus Moth
• Westland Lysander
• Gladiator
• Sopwith Camel
• Sopwith Pup
• Sopwith Triplane
• Bristol F2B Fighter
• Gloster Gladiator
• Deperdussin
• Avro Triplane IV
• Blackburn Monoplane Type ‘D’
Shuttleworth's website have only removed the the participants so far from the display list with pictures and not the text version.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby pb643 on Wed 16 May 2018, 8:11 pm

DaveBr wrote:
pb643 wrote:Just checked the CAA website and the Kennet Seafire is now listed as owned by a private owner at Old Warden Park. I presume this indicates a change in ownership?


Why would you presume that? It is registered to Tim Manna, as it has been since 2001. Tim Manna is a Director of Kennet Aviation Ltd.


Sorry, I simply wasn't aware of that. :sad:
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby Mooshie1956 on Sun 20 May 2018, 10:08 pm

How full does this show get?. I'm thinking about making this my next show to go to, as I would really love to get a nice topside of the Swordfish.
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Re: June 3rd - Fly Navy III

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Sun 20 May 2018, 10:13 pm

Mooshie1956 wrote:How full does this show get?. I'm thinking about making this my next show to go to, as I would really love to get a nice topside of the Swordfish.

The first one was very close to a sell out IIRC. Last year was probably a bit less, but the weather wasn't nearly as good - that's probably the biggest factor that will determine it this year, unless they pull something out of the bag to replace those that have dropped off the list.

Having said all that, you might want to (and perhaps probably should) ignore everything I say after I jinxed the traffic for you at the Season Premiere! :lol: :hide:
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