Shuttleworth Pageant Airshow - 6th September

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An understandably small list of visitors so far - both given the time until the event and also seeing as it is the main show for the Collection itself. Mew Gull pair anyone?

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Edge 540
Dakota (BBMF)
Mew Gull


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I've never been to a Shuttleworth Pageant and as you've said before it really is the main show for the Collection, so I have two questions: 1) When will the Collection participation be announced or are we to assume that it will just be as many as they can get in the air in the conditions? and 2) Is it likely any other visitors will be confirmed?
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Pringles wrote:I've never been to a Shuttleworth Pageant and as you've said before it really is the main show for the Collection, so I have two questions: 1) When will the Collection participation be announced or are we to assume that it will just be as many as they can get in the air in the conditions? and 2) Is it likely any other visitors will be confirmed?


Last year's preliminary list came out in the middle of August.

Aircraft Listings:

Hunter T7

BBMF Spitfire and Hurricane

Gloster Gladiator x 2

DH88 Comet

Eon Primary

Comper Swift

Avro 19 Anson and Avro Tutor

Hawker Cygnet and ANEC II

BE2c x 2

Miles Magister, DHC 1 Chipmunk and Percival Provost T1

Hawker Hind and Hawker Demon

DH51 ‘Miss Kenya’, DH60 Moth, DH 60X Moth and Desoutter I

Avro 504K, RAF SE5a and Sopwith Pup

Fieseler Storch, Hawker Sea Hurricane and Westland Lysander

Blackburn B2, DH82a Tiger Moth, Hawker Tomtit and Polikarpov Po2

Bristol M1.C and Bristol F.2B Fighter

Fauvel AV36

Edwardians (weather permitting)


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Thanks :up: already looking forward to it!
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List up

Visiting Aircraft
•Kittyhawk
•Edge 540
•Dakota (BBMF)
•Mew Gull

Collection Aircraft
•Glider: Eon Primary & Fauvel
•Avros: Avro Anson & Avro Tutor
•Biplane trainers: Blackburn B2, DH82a Tiger Moth, Hawker Tomtit, PO2
•Racers: DH88 Comet, Percival Mew Gull (with visiting Mew Gull)
•Aerial carriages: Parnall Elf, DH60, DH60X, Southern Martlet
•WWI late: Bristol M1C, RAF SE5a, Bristol F2.b
•WW2: Hawker Hurricane & Gloster Gladiator
•Monoplane trainers: Miles Magisters x 2, Piston Provost
•1930s RAF: Hawker Hind & Hawker Demon
•WWI early: Sopwith Pup & Avro 504K

Would be nice to see the Snipe and Albatros back, like the Be2s were at the pageant last year.
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Needs more Blenheim.
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LN Strike Eagle wrote:Needs more Blenheim.


And Seafire III :love: :love:
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And Fury and Nimrods :biggrin:
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st24 wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:Needs more Blenheim.


And Seafire III :love: :love:

Yes please! :drool:

I note there's been an aerobatic type at almost every Shuttleworth show this year? Don't recall too many in the past. Why are they booking these things instead of stuff that's more relevant?
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LN Strike Eagle wrote:Needs more Blenheim.


No chance. It will be at The Victory Show.

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Flare Path wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:Needs more Blenheim.


No chance. It will be at The Victory Show.

It's not too far out of its way... :ninja:
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Pringles wrote:
Flare Path wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:Needs more Blenheim.


No chance. It will be at The Victory Show.

It's not too far out of its way... :ninja:


Not sure - booked in all weekend, I believe.

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No Lysander and i can't remember the last time they flew the DH51? Does it have a problem?
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AMB wrote:No Lysander and i can't remember the last time they flew the DH51? Does it have a problem?

I've asked this before as it's not flown at any shows this year - was told the Lysander is out for the season. It's in the engineering hangar with the Spitfire.
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AMB wrote:No Lysander and i can't remember the last time they flew the DH51? Does it have a problem?


DH51 I believe last flew (well, last displayed anyway) at last year's September Pageant show.

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According to the last issue of Prop-swing, there is a problem with some rivets on the undercarriage wishbone of the Lysander which is being left until the end of the season to be worked on.

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Pen Pusher wrote:According to the last issue of Prop-swing, there is a problem with some rivets on the undercarriage wishbone of the Lysander which is being left until the end of the season to be worked on.

Brian

Indeed, talking to one of the engineers it seems quite serious. If it (the wishbone that is and its 500 bolts) fails a stress test and a replacement can't be found it may be it for the old girl....The wishbone not only acts as the u/c but the support point for the wing struts too so there's a lot of related structures. :confused:
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Edge 540 no longer on the list.
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capercaillie wrote:Edge 540 no longer on the list.

There's now a space for the Blenheim then :heyhey:
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I thought that the DH51 was the aeroplane involved in the accident that caused Trevor Roach's death. If this so I would doubt if it's airworthy.

I don't remember it flying last year.

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Orion wrote:I thought that the DH51 was the aeroplane involved in the accident that caused Trevor Roach's death. If this so I would doubt if it's airworthy.

I don't remember it flying last year.

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Aircraft involved was the DH53 Hummingbird...

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Orion wrote:I thought that the DH51 was the aeroplane involved in the accident that caused Trevor Roach's death. If this so I would doubt if it's airworthy.

I don't remember it flying last year.

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Pringles wrote:
Orion wrote:I thought that the DH51 was the aeroplane involved in the accident that caused Trevor Roach's death. If this so I would doubt if it's airworthy.

I don't remember it flying last year.

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Trevor Roche...died when the engine of the 1923 de Havilland DH 53 Humming Bird he was flying failed shortly after take-off at an air show at Shuttleworth’s Old Warden Park



If you read the report the engine did not fail on the 53.

Every year there is a decision made on which airframes to rest during the coming season, this is purely for man power reasons as trying to keep over 45 aircraft, many of them unique on standby is a little much to ask of 8 engineers.


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svas_volunteer wrote:If you read the report the engine did not fail on the 53.

You may be right, I was just interested as to whether the 51 was in fact a mistake and it was not airworthy so I googled it :biggrin: The quote is, I believe, from Trevor Roche's obitury in the Telegraph from soon after the crash
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My thanks to all for the corrections.

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