Military Pageant 3/7

Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby AFC on Sat 02 Jul 2016, 11:13 am

Tomorrow is going to be my first proper test for my new lens / camera combo. I can't wait :yahoo: and then RIAT next weekend :rock:

Any tips for using a 600mm lens?

Hope everyone who goes tomorrow enjoys the show

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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby vintage ATCO on Sat 02 Jul 2016, 5:17 pm

LN Strike Eagle wrote:Anyone know if the Spits, Buchon, Mustang, and Yak are landing on?


That's the plan except the Yak
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Sat 02 Jul 2016, 5:18 pm

Thanks. If only you'd posted 20 minutes earlier I could have got discounted tickets! :grin:

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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Tbolt on Sat 02 Jul 2016, 5:59 pm

vintage ATCO wrote:
LN Strike Eagle wrote:Anyone know if the Spits, Buchon, Mustang, and Yak are landing on?


That's the plan except the Yak


Shame, the Yak-3 is the one I really want to see on on the ground!
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby st24 on Sat 02 Jul 2016, 6:56 pm

AFC wrote:
Any tips for using a 600mm lens?


Cheers,
James

Point the bigger end at the aeroplane

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Will make a decision in the morning now.

Same, wx is changeable..
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby County1884 on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:41 pm

Great show today at Old Warden, Lovely weather.
The flying varies so much from act to act though.
Bbmf Hurricane display was excellent as good as you see from them this season
Sally B "EPIC" at Old Warden
Duxford Spits were fantastic
Peter Teichman high and distant (love the new colour scheme though Peter) as I though was the YAK3

Not the Old Old Warden but as with fly navy so much of an improvement on the season opener.

Be interesting to see what the at legends is like next week. I pray it's an improvement on Duxfords season opener.
PS If it's not what about moving legends to OW :yahoo:
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby AFC on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 8:21 pm

County1884 wrote:Great show today at Old Warden, Lovely weather.
The flying varies so much from act to act though.
Bbmf Hurricane display was excellent as good as you see from them this season
Sally B "EPIC" at Old Warden
Duxford Spits were fantastic
Peter Teichman high and distant (love the new colour scheme though Peter) as I though was the YAK3

Not the Old Old Warden but as with fly navy so much of an improvement on the season opener.

Be interesting to see what the at legends is like next week. I pray it's an improvement on Duxfords season opener.
PS If it's not what about moving legends to OW :yahoo:


I don't think we saw the same thing.....
BBMF hurricane was useless, it might as well have not bothered turning up. All underside passes and all distant. Even by their standards the display was shockingly poor.
Teichman did some lovely passes, and the yak 3, well that wasn't exactly a good display, but it was still much better than the BBMF display.
Spitfires were awesome, as was Sally B
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Tbolt on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 10:13 pm

County1884 wrote:Great show today at Old Warden, Lovely weather.
The flying varies so much from act to act though.
Bbmf Hurricane display was excellent as good as you see from them this season
Sally B "EPIC" at Old Warden
Duxford Spits were fantastic
Peter Teichman high and distant (love the new colour scheme though Peter) as I though was the YAK3

Not the Old Old Warden but as with fly navy so much of an improvement on the season opener.

Be interesting to see what the at legends is like next week. I pray it's an improvement on Duxfords season opener.
PS If it's not what about moving legends to OW :yahoo:


BBMF was about what I expected - nothing really tailored for the venue, so the usual average and not that exciting a display, agree Sally B and the Spits were really great. Peter Teichman wasn't too bad though he could have bought it a bit closer, but Steve Jones in the Buchon was another top display and he really needs to speak to the pilot of the Yak-3 about how to display at Old Warden as I was quite disappointed with his display. Several times it looked like he was coming around for a great pass and then he would pull the aircraft tight around and head further away from the crowd.
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby GertrudetheMerciless on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 10:47 pm

I wonder how good the above posters' Yak-3 displays are... Or their Yak-3s... just sayin'! Small, fairly rarely spotted aeroplane, different venue. I do like it though.

As for the BBMF, well, they have a different remit (and for most of their pilots, experience levels of display flying) to civilian owned display aircraft and their displays are "boring*" for a reason.

Lovely to see the B-17 back at OW. The Spits were excellent IMHO (in their various combinations), the Buchon's nose stood out very well in its energetic display by Steve Jones.

Overall a good little show. This one seemed much better without the number of formations that appeared in June. :smile:
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby AFC on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 10:51 pm

Tbolt wrote:
BBMF was about what I expected - nothing really tailored for the venue, so the usual average and not that exciting a display.


BBMF spitfire and hurricane both made much better passes at the fly navy show last month, but they were only flypasts (does that really make a difference?), either way I would have much preferred to see it do its 'flypast' rather than actual display. No one around me even bothered taking photos of the BBMF hurricane, didn't hear a single camera throughout its whole display. Compare that to any other warbird that displayed where you could hear the camera shutters continuously. A really poor performance by the BBMF, extremely disappointed by them (yet again :wall: ). They need to be trained by the buchon and spitfire pilots, or even the yak pilot (at least he kind of knew how to show the crowd a bit of topside :whistle: )


Edit: Well done to Shuttleworth for organising yet another fantastic show :clap: three brilliant shows out of three so far, and the rest look like they could follow suit. They've been lucky with the weather so far, lets hope that luck continues, they deserve it with all the effort they're putting into their shows this year :worship:

Also nice to see the triplane fully back together, how long till it flies again?
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Tbolt on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 6:59 am

GertrudetheMerciless wrote:I wonder how good the above posters' Yak-3 displays are... Or their Yak-3s... just sayin'! Small, fairly rarely spotted aeroplane, different venue. I do like it though.

As for the BBMF, well, they have a different remit (and for most of their pilots, experience levels of display flying) to civilian owned display aircraft and their displays are "boring*" for a reason.

Lovely to see the B-17 back at OW. The Spits were excellent IMHO (in their various combinations), the Buchon's nose stood out very well in its energetic display by Steve Jones.

Overall a good little show. This one seemed much better without the number of formations that appeared in June. :smile:


Is that the "you don't have one so you don't have an opinion" argument?

The point is that when you get an aircraft at Old Warden that you haven't seen there before it become a little disappointing when they don't use the potential of the venue, which has become more important now everything is further away.
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby romeo bravo on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:00 am

AFC wrote:A really poor performance by the BBMF, extremely disappointed by them (yet again :wall: ). They need to be trained by the buchon and spitfire pilots, or even the yak pilot


You will probably find here are limitations placed on the BBMF fleet as they are still deemed to be military a/c and flown by military pilots.

Overall a good show. My only gripe was the couple of chaps who kept banging on about lighting conditions or the clouds were in the wrong place. You want to be glad it wasn't cloudy or raining; get a life. Oh, and one was complaining when the Spit Mk V was delayed, "I'm going to ask for my money back" :wall: and then complained at the end of the display when the aforementioned Mk V, which did arrive and land, didn't do a departing fly through. :dizzy:
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Pen Pusher on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:04 am

The HAC Mk.V had problems, with the tail wheel I think it was, which delayed its departure so they should be grateful that it actually landed at Old Warden.

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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Hatstand on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:45 am

County1884 wrote:Sally B "EPIC" at Old Warden

^ THIS! ^

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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Tbolt on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:58 am

romeo bravo wrote:
AFC wrote:A really poor performance by the BBMF, extremely disappointed by them (yet again :wall: ). They need to be trained by the buchon and spitfire pilots, or even the yak pilot


You will probably find here are limitations placed on the BBMF fleet as they are still deemed to be military a/c and flown by military pilots.

Overall a good show. My only gripe was the couple of chaps who kept banging on about lighting conditions or the clouds were in the wrong place. You want to be glad it wasn't cloudy or raining; get a life. Oh, and one was complaining when the Spit Mk V was delayed, "I'm going to ask for my money back" :wall: and then complained at the end of the display when the aforementioned Mk V, which did arrive and land, didn't do a departing fly through. :dizzy:


I would have to say "get a life" to you in a nice way :) By which I mean don't let what cr*p other people are saying around you effect enjoyment of the show, especially if you don't know some one and they might have a dry sense of humour when they say they are going to ask for their money back.
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby AlexC on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 4:12 pm

The sun does often hide behind a cloud at most inappropriate time, but that's just life of course.
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby UKAirshowTour on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 6:02 pm

This show was Epic!
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby AlexC on Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:39 am

How I wish I'd gone now goddamnit! Thought that the weather looked a bit iffy, and Old Warden is quite a way from here between the sea and the New Forest. :sad:
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Re: Military Pageant 3/7

Postby Orion on Tue 05 Jul 2016, 11:16 am

I enjoyed it although my back didn't. Very sore afterwards.

I got over an hour's worth of film which has edited down nicely and the Old Warden cloudscapes were stupendous.

Excellent flying by all but for me the best part of the show was the WD traction engine with the field gun and limber. Never thought I'd ever see anything like that.

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