Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Bronco on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 2:32 pm

The JP display team are meant to be providing a solo JP for the display according to their twitter account, flying with the Piston Provost
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Canon on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 2:40 pm

capercaillie wrote:
Canon wrote:Sea hurricane, and Little and large still on the list?
I would have thought both would be out of action this weekend :dunno:



We still might get Large, just not Little. :grin:

BBMF Dakota is fairly unlikely as well.


When is the BBMF Dakota ever likely to turn up.
In fact when is anything from the BBMF ever likely to turn up. :whistle:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Canon on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 2:42 pm

Bronco wrote:The JP display team are meant to be providing a solo JP for the display according to their twitter account, flying with the Piston Provost


The provosts are Percival, right? Maybe that's what they mean by Percival parade :dunno:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby capercaillie on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 2:46 pm

Canon wrote:BBMF Dakota is fairly unlikely as well

When is the BBMF Dakota ever likely to turn up.
In fact when is anything from the BBMF ever likely to turn up. :whistle:



BBMF have been to every OW show I've been to in the last two to three years. :dunno: Don't see a problem, just the Dak is knackered at present.
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Canon on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 3:32 pm

capercaillie wrote:
Canon wrote:BBMF Dakota is fairly unlikely as well

When is the BBMF Dakota ever likely to turn up.
In fact when is anything from the BBMF ever likely to turn up. :whistle:



BBMF have been to every OW show I've been to in the last two to three years. :dunno: Don't see a problem, just the Dak is knackered at present.


Fly Navy show (no dakota)
Edwardian pageant (no hurricane)

You haven't been to many OW shows this year then :dunno:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby capercaillie on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 4:15 pm

At the Fly Navy show they sent a Spitfire instead of the Dakota as well as the Hurricane, as I say, I can't see a problem? Do you want them to push the Dakota over?

They sent the Hurricane to the Military Pageant to replace the Lancaster. The wind limits were outside their permitted scope for the Edwardian Pageant, they have to follow procedures. Whatever you like to say about them, they have been good supporters of OW shows over the last few years and have offered alternatives when their own fleet has had serviceability issues.
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Canon on Fri 02 Sep 2016, 4:23 pm

capercaillie wrote:At the Fly Navy show they sent a Spitfire instead of the Dakota as well as the Hurricane, as I say, I can't see a problem? Do you want them to push the Dakota over?

They sent the Hurricane to the Military Pageant to replace the Lancaster. The wind limits were outside their permitted scope for the Edwardian Pageant, they have to follow procedures. Whatever you like to say about them, they have been good supporters of OW shows over the last few years and have offered alternatives when their own fleet has had serviceability issues.


My bad, I didn't realise that the spitfire at the Fly Navy show was a replacement for the dakota :surrender:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Elliott Marsh on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 8:40 pm

Enjoyable show today. We've seen the Mew Gulls flying together before, but this only-in-the-UK pairing really owned the day. Magnificent stuff with low, close flying in abundance. BBMF Hurricane flew three sporting topsides that should keep people happy. In all a really nice show with good variety, quality flying and a solid four and a quarter hours of displays with very few gaps to speak of.
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Postby aknott68 on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:14 pm

Well just come back from this show and it was great except for one thing, the summer we've had this year has been terrible in giving good light for these airshows and today was no exception - but can't thank the team at Old Warden for putting up a really interesting and busy airshow - its so nice to be able to go to a show and not get a lot of hassle and Old Warden has that down pat.

I had the Nikon 200-500 on an FX lens and it was fine -managing to get some nice take off shots, which pretty much the only things worth keeping. The light was horrible for chunls of the day, it looked on occasion that it might brighten up only to sucker people and go back flat and dull again. At one point shooting on ISO 400 on the D7100 and it really doesn't handle those conditions that well.

I just hope we get a much nice summer season next year so we can look forward to enjoying Old Warden again :smile:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:46 pm

Was it a healthy sized crowd today?
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Elliott Marsh on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:51 pm

It felt similar to the last Sunday show. I arrived fairly late and was parked in the overflow field. I doubt the poor weather early on helped - I delayed my departure until almost midday owing to early clag and rain in the south-east. I was leaning towards giving it a miss as of Friday (due to the forecast) but I'm glad I went.

Interestingly, there was an exodus immediately after Little & Large, then more in their droves after the Comet (despite there still being several displays left).

No sausage and duck egg rolls though, and the latte man ran out of ice. :sad:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby aknott68 on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:04 pm

I was on the bus at 6 so left flight line just after comet as I say its just a shame the weather didnt play ball it was a really nice day. The hind didnt display is that out of service?
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Canon on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:08 pm

aknott68 wrote:I was on the bus at 6 so left flight line just after comet as I say its just a shame the weather didnt play ball it was a really nice day. The hind didnt display is that out of service?


The hind was in a hangar with no engine, so I'd say thats a yes :grin:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby capercaillie on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 1:22 am

Did the Camel fly?

I didn't go, three hours there for a poor forecast wasn't worth it for me. :sad:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby I.Winfield on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 7:00 am

capercaillie wrote:Did the Camel fly?


Unfortunately not, the S.E.5a and F2b were the only WW1 aircraft to fly. It was a shame about the winds being out of limits for the others.
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby capercaillie on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 8:13 am

I.Winfield wrote:
capercaillie wrote:Did the Camel fly?


Unfortunately not, the S.E.5a and F2b were the only WW1 aircraft to fly. It was a shame about the winds being out of limits for the others.


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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Elliott Marsh on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 8:35 am

The Camel hasn't yet flown, likewise the Triplane after its repairs. Assuming they don't make Race Day, it's more to look forward to at OW next year along with (hopefully) the resident Dove. The Spitfire is progressing towards flight too.
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 8:39 am

Any idea when the Spitfire is likely to fly?
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby sdad on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 8:43 am

What on earth are "Little and Large"?
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby cuban8 on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 9:30 am

sdad wrote:What on earth are "Little and Large"?


G-Force Aerobatics - Full size Extra 300 displaying with a 41% scale model of an Extra 300. Very novel and well received by the crowd. http://www.gforceaerobatics.com/
A good day yesterday, well done OW for putting on something for everyone, shame it was so chilly under the cloudy sky but at least it remained dry if a bit too windy for some machines.
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby BrawlerO on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 10:41 am

Elliott Marsh wrote:Interestingly, there was an exodus immediately after Little & Large, then more in their droves after the Comet (despite there still being several displays left).


I was one of those that left after the Comet. Being a Sunday and having a long drive home being the main factors but I would have stayed until the bitter end if we had enjoyed some later afternoon sunshine. The Catalina probably got the best of the weather during the displays. This was my first visit to Old Warden but I am looking forward to next year. Really enjoyable day, just needed the weather to play ball a bit more.
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby sdad on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 11:25 am

Cuban, thanks - was it a different team that lost their "little" recently?
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby st24 on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 1:14 pm

sdad wrote:Cuban, thanks - was it a different team that lost their "little" recently?


That's confused me too- have we two or even more Little and Large teams?? :dizzy:
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby Canon on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 1:30 pm

st24 wrote:
sdad wrote:Cuban, thanks - was it a different team that lost their "little" recently?


That's confused me too- have we two or even more Little and Large teams?? :dizzy:


It was the same team as at Little Gransden. I presume he has a spare model (maybe an old one).
The display seemed different (he didn't follow Chris like he usually does), maybe the model used didn't have all the cameras fitted like the one that crashed so he couldn't do the proper display? Or have they changed it due to CAA rules?
I remember the commentary team at Little Gransden saying he has a laptop with a live feed from all the cameras displaying on it. This time he didn't have the laptop. So it points more towards the theory of the model not having the cameras on and just being a spare/ old one (maybe even a practice one?)
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Re: Wings and Wheels - 4th Sept

Postby AMB on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 11:25 pm

I left when the Anson was flying as I had had enough of the gloomy skies by then and frustrating watching huge expanses of blue skies open up to the north of Old Warden. Another 'wild goose chase' hoping to see the DH51 in the air, which remained hangar bound yet again!
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