Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Flare Path on Wed 31 May 2017, 9:41 pm

Shame there's been significant cancellations in the last few days - Corsair gone too. May have to consider the lengthy journey at this rate... :sad:
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Tobyone1985 on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 6:38 am

Changing tact slightly, dose anyone know when the Merlin and Lynx Wildcat are due?
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Ryan. on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 9:30 am

frank wrote:The provisional list is beginning to sound more like a "wish list". I don't normally get grumpy about drop outs but I am increasingly thinking Shuttleworth were naïve about posting such a list given as we are learning that a number of star participants are struggling to get their winter servicing out of the way.
I also feel naïve (my word of the week) about taking the provisional list as the basis of buying my tickets in advance.
Wont do that again with Shuttleworth.


Case of damned if they do or don't here. Can't sell advanced tickets if you don't know what is flying and can't help aircraft serviceability if you realise the list early.

Of the loss of the Sea Vixen is a massive blow, easily the star attraction for many.That of course can't be helped but losing the Corsair and the Skyradier as well is a blow.

Perhaps the list should be updated more often? Been mentioned on here that the Slyraider did not look like it would make it a long time ago and Cosford removed it from their flying list before Shuttleworth. Also seeing the Corsair at Duxford on the weekend, to the untrained eye, it certainly didn't look ready.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Seamus on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 9:33 am

Shuttleworth's Gladiator has also fallen off the list....
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 9:41 am

I'd be fine with the list as it stands if some of the star warbirds were landing. As I've said many times before, it makes such a difference to my enjoyment of the show when these machines are available for a close viewing and you get to enjoy the takeoff/landing phase of flight too.

For some of them like the Catalina that's obviously not possible, but the Seafire could be on the ground at the show and I'm sure the Wildcat could be also. Sea Fury possibly?
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby breadsticks on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 10:19 am

Hi all as many of you have noticed this years show
Is suffering a bit from participating aircraft withdrawing due to serviceability which we expect to attend. I understand the show was a big hit last year and has high expectations this year to better itself. However this year has been a bit different. Shows go through spells where they can be unklucky

A good example is Cosford Airshow, how unlucky Peter Reoch and the team have been previous years.

Please be patient with the team as they are all working very hard, to make the show as best as possible

3x Gazelle for the show 1x static 2x display
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 10:33 am

breadsticks wrote:Hi all as many of you have noticed this years show
Is suffering a bit from participating aircraft withdrawing due to serviceability which we expect to attend. We understand the show was a big hit last year and has high expectations this year to better itself. However this year has been a bit different. Shows go through spells where they can be unklucky, where it's out of our hands.

A good example is Cosford Airshow, how unlucky Peter Reoch and the team have been previous years.

Please be patient with the team as they are all working very hard, to make the show as best as possible

Update to the list 3x Gazelle for the show 1x static 2x display pair


I think the issue people have here is that a number of the star items were known to be in deep maintenance or hadn't flown for a very long time indeed - the Skyraider being one of them. As the show got nearer and these aeroplanes still hadn't flown, it seems a bit lastminute.com to only be confirming the cancellations now, when realistically it was clear they'd not make it, and work could have been done to draft in suitable replacements weeks ago.

Another worrying trend is for visiting aircraft not to be landing at the venue - one hopes Shuttleworth doesn't become a warbird version of Cosford. People want to see these aeroplanes close-up on the ground. It's clear that not all types can land at Old Warden, but those able to, should.

And if it's too late to source quality replacements for the no-shows now, chuck the money saved at the Pageants.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 10:56 am

As of about two weeks ago, other shows were still being assured that the Skyraider would be ready in time so I assume it's the same here.

Additional Gazelles are a start. Please keep us posted with any developments, as between the weather forecast and the depleted participation, I'm now thinking of giving this one a miss and holding out for better at the Pageant.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Jumbo on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:02 am

are the gazelles actually doing a full display? since the gazelle squadron Facebook says they are doing a flypast. also does anyone know which wasp is the one still on the list, the terry martin wasp is gone but there is still one left.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:10 am

Terry Martin's is G-KAXT, so as posted the last time you asked, it's most likely to be G-RIMM. They're both in the same place for maintenance though, and as as neither have been photographed outside the hangar yet, one assumes it's another potential cancellation.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby breadsticks on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:41 am

Hi all,
gazelles due to do flypasts "correction"

Terry Martins wasp still in maintenance due to emergency landing, though still expecting G-RIMM

I have been informed Seafire and sea fury have requested spots on the flightline

However there is the possibility this could change
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby cg_341 on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:45 am

breadsticks wrote:gazelles due to do a pairs display

Who told you that?
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Jumbo on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:52 am

breadsticks wrote:Hi all,
gazelles due to do a pairs display

Terry Martins wasp still in maintenance due to emergency landing, though we are still expecting G-RIMM

I have been informed Seafire and sea fury have now requested allocated spots on the flightline

However there is the possibility this could change


Excellent news that the seafire and fury will be landing. It'll be good to finally see them up close. Plus the BBC are no longer forecasting rain! now I'm getting excited...
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby breadsticks on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:58 am

Hampshire Aviation wrote:
breadsticks wrote:gazelles due to do a pairs display

Who told you that?


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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 12:08 pm

breadsticks wrote:I have been informed Seafire and sea fury have now requested allocated spots on the flightline

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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby N48284 on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 3:14 pm

You say Gazelles? How many Ex Navy Gazelles are coming as this is a Navy show.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Pringles on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 3:27 pm

N48284 wrote:You say Gazelles? How many Ex Navy Gazelles are coming as this is a Navy show.

Well at least one of the two usually used for the pairs display is Royal Navy schemed, portraying the RN Sharks display team
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Pringles on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 3:58 pm

Seamus wrote:Shuttleworth's Gladiator has also fallen off the list....

Most recent tweet from the Shuttleworth account says "Gloster Gladiator anticipated to be back on the programme for #flynavy"
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Seamus on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 4:40 pm

Ah, excellent. I see the Merlin has arrived too :cool:
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Tommy on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 5:42 pm

Despite the spate of cancellations, I'm very much looking forward to this show!

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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Seamus on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 5:51 pm

Absolutely. Expectations are naturally high after last year's epic show, but even with the loss of some key participants, that's still a cracking line up for any Shuttleworth show, and one I'm very much looking forward to :cool:
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby Jumbo on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 6:16 pm

i just had 2 AW wildcats over... first time ever since i live nowhere near yeovilton. heading to old warden? they looked great in the evening light!
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 6:21 pm

Bearcat flew at Duxford today.
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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby timuss on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 7:43 pm

LN Strike Eagle wrote:Bearcat flew at Duxford today.

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Re: Fly Navy II - 4 June 2017

Postby AlexC on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:07 pm

Jumbo wrote:i just had 2 AW wildcats over... first time ever since i live nowhere near yeovilton. heading to old warden? they looked great in the evening light!


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