Evening Airshows

Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Ian G on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 11:23 am

One of the best shows, what an atmosphere! I couldn't believe how busy it was too, just a shame that there some whopping great clouds at the start of the evening which scuppered any nice light on the Comet and Mew Gull, but as for everything else, well....just a superb evening. It was also great to get up close to the aircraft in the afternoon although there were some very rude photographers about! I just hope the weather is as good for the next evening show!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Slinger65 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 11:36 am

Cracking evening's entertainment for the whole family - a Fathers' Day treat brought forward by a day.

Shame about the early clouds (bah, clear blue skies when we left the Midlands) but otherwise a fantastic evening.

The commentary could have been perhaps a bit more informative about what was still to come after the visiting aircraft departed (eg confirming that the Harvard was still to fly) but we'd still probably have taken our leave at that point anyway to avoid too late a return home.

Commentary volume was just fine where we were, a couple of rows back from the front admittedly. Expect they'd toned the volume down after this year's Fly Navy, where at times it was literally painful to listen to at the same point on the crowdline.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 12:51 pm

Out of interest who was the commentator? We couldn't put a name to the voice but thought he was excellent and unobtrusive, letting the displays breathe while giving enough salient information to enhance and not overwhelm like Cosford's Wikipedia-sponsored horrors the week before. :clap:
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Giant Voice on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 1:24 pm

Dan, the commentator was the excellent Mark Whall, a fun and gentle character who like you has a background in professional broadcasting as well as being a proffessional pilot on a variety of large and long range business jets. We were supposed to be working together yesterday as the new policy is to have two commentators at each show, but a personal difficulty left me unable to attend at the last moment, and it appears I missed a delight of a show. Just my luck! I have had the great pleasure of working with Mark on a number of occasions and can tell you he is as knowledgeable as anyone I know and utterly respectful of Shuttleworth and it's audience.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 2:10 pm

Giant Voice wrote:Dan, the commentator was the excellent Mark Whall, a fun and gentle character who like you has a background in professional broadcasting as well as being a proffessional pilot on a variety of large and long range business jets. We were supposed to be working together yesterday as the new policy is to have two commentators at each show, but a personal difficulty left me unable to attend at the last moment, and it appears I missed a delight of a show. Just my luck! I have had the great pleasure of working with Mark on a number of occasions and can tell you he is as knowledgeable as anyone I know and utterly respectful of Shuttleworth and it's audience.


He was very good Tim. Like yours, his style is perfect for Shuttleworth. A job well done!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Mike on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 3:00 pm

UKTopgun wrote:The only negative from a great show was commentary...really quiet where I was, could barely hear it.

You call that a negative? After being blasted out by commentary so loud it hurt the eardrums at the Fly Navy show two weeks ago, I'd call that a massive positive!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby rob68 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 3:15 pm

I'm told the PA volume has a notoriously bad reputation and is difficult to set. I thought it was great as could hardly hear it after FN. Didnt leave till 10 past 10. Hope the guy who had a 4 hour journey to near Swansea got home ok
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby alisdairanderson on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 7:47 pm

Ian G wrote:One of the best shows, what an atmosphere! I couldn't believe how busy it was too, just a shame that there some whopping great clouds at the start of the evening which scuppered any nice light on the Comet and Mew Gull, but as for everything else, well....just a superb evening. It was also great to get up close to the aircraft in the afternoon although there were some very rude photographers about! I just hope the weather is as good for the next evening show!



The clouds during the Comet display were really unfortunate - there were two passes where it found the sun, but probably only if you were at the Restaurant-end of the site.....:
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Tim Spouge on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 9:44 pm

A very enjoyable airshow with perfect weather and atmosphere. The attendance was a lot higher than I expected, it was good to see so much support. The commentary volume was perfect, nice and clear without dominating the display. A couple of the Avro Tutor topside passes were some of the best I have seen at an airshow.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Ian G on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 11:40 am

Annoyingly it looks like my spare SD card failed after my CF filled up thus my shots after the Harvard take off have all gone. I've spent all morning trying to recover but alas it looks like they're corrupted beyond recovery. I could cry, the light was just amazing as you can see from others' images. I really hope that there will be another combination of great aircraft and glorious weather next year! I am still in awe and I echo other's comments, it could possibly be the best show of the year. The only criticism I have is that I wish there were some more passes by the Sea Hurricane on its own. Other than that, everything was just right - despite the unique types of aircraft that display there, I think it's easily the best venue for a show.

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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Elliott Marsh on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 12:07 pm

Worth noting the Snipe and BE2e are scheduled to appear at the July evening airshow (the Saturday of RIAT). Fingers crossed!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 12:25 pm

Ian G wrote:Annoyingly it looks like my spare SD card failed after my CF filled up thus my shots after the Harvard take off have all gone. I've spent all morning trying to recover but alas it looks like they're corrupted beyond recovery. I could cry, the light was just amazing as you can see from others' images. I really hope that there will be another combination of great aircraft and glorious weather next year! I am still in awe and I echo other's comments, it could possibly be the best show of the year. The only criticism I have is that I wish there were some more passes by the Sea Hurricane on its own. Other than that, everything was just right - despite the unique types of aircraft that display there, I think it's easily the best venue for a show.

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The Sea Hurricane is an odd one. If I have one gripe about Old Warden it's that their Sea Hurricane spends more time formating and holding away from the crowd than it does displaying. As I recall they have engine heating issues with the aircraft which means it doesn't spend long in the air generally. I think we all wish that more of that time was spent in front of the crowd! For me, it's the best-painted Hurricane currently flying.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby svas_volunteer on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 9:11 am

Dan O'Hagan wrote:
Ian G wrote:Annoyingly it looks like my spare SD card failed after my CF filled up thus my shots after the Harvard take off have all gone. I've spent all morning trying to recover but alas it looks like they're corrupted beyond recovery. I could cry, the light was just amazing as you can see from others' images. I really hope that there will be another combination of great aircraft and glorious weather next year! I am still in awe and I echo other's comments, it could possibly be the best show of the year. The only criticism I have is that I wish there were some more passes by the Sea Hurricane on its own. Other than that, everything was just right - despite the unique types of aircraft that display there, I think it's easily the best venue for a show.

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The Sea Hurricane is an odd one. If I have one gripe about Old Warden it's that their Sea Hurricane spends more time formating and holding away from the crowd than it does displaying. As I recall they have engine heating issues with the aircraft which means it doesn't spend long in the air generally. I think we all wish that more of that time was spent in front of the crowd! For me, it's the best-painted Hurricane currently flying.



The only engine heating/cooling issue the Sea Hurricane has is it needs a short float around at low power settings after it's displayed so the coolant temperature can come down so it doesn't get too warm on the ground during taxi and resting. It's purely to try and keep from cooking the engine and preserving it's long term viability. Don't forget in the last few years it's transitted to Yeovilton and Goodwood so airborne time isn't a problem. Usually the types the Sea Hurricane formate with haven't flown together so carry out a briefing before takeoff and then practice away from the display to ensure everyone has their eye in for the display runs. I'll pass the comments on as I never get enough of seeing it coming around the bend. :smile:
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Elliott Marsh on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 9:16 am

Not too sure about that to be honest, the SHurricane flew solo at every Old Warden airshow I went to in 2016 and has done so at the four 2017 events! If anything it feels like one of the based aeroplanes I've seen the most over the last few years (putting aside the period it spent on the shelf of course). Made sense to give P3717 the red carpet treatment on Saturday, making it the clear star of the show.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Ian G on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 7:54 am

Elliott Marsh wrote:Made sense to give P3717 the red carpet treatment on Saturday, making it the clear star of the show.


That is true and I agree, what a debut as well; but as Dan alluded to in his post, the colours on the Sea Hurricane would have been sublime in that evening light. Just one pass....
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby UK Airshow Review on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 6:37 pm

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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby The Baron on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 7:27 pm

Spot on.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Chris G on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 7:58 pm

Well said, great article!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Ian G on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 8:37 pm

Just going through some of my photos and I completely forgot that I took one of a DH Dove in the distance during the Tomtit's display - anyone else notice this?!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 8:59 pm

Ian G wrote:Just going through some of my photos and I completely forgot that I took one of a DH Dove in the distance during the Tomtit's display - anyone else notice this?!

Yeah, I got one too.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby UKTopgun on Fri 23 Jun 2017, 4:55 pm

An accurate account of a lovely Summer evening, speaking as one of the throng who stayed right until the end in the impending gloom! One small point, wasn't it really only Dan who is/was the principal BBMF 'maligner' ?!
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Dan O'Hagan on Fri 23 Jun 2017, 5:18 pm

UKTopgun wrote:An accurate account of a lovely Summer evening, speaking as one of the throng who stayed right until the end in the impending gloom! One small point, wasn't it really only Dan who is/was the principal BBMF 'maligner' ?!


You hear grumbles on the fence and on the forums, but I speak up about the BBMF being absolutely awful at displaying some of the finest warbirds on the planet. But, this season it appears that they might have finally realised that flying them is not enough, it is HOW they fly them that paints the most poignant tribute.
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby TKK 140 on Fri 23 Jun 2017, 7:41 pm

UKTopgun wrote:An accurate account of a lovely Summer evening, speaking as one of the throng who stayed right until the end in the impending gloom!



BBMF flew a blinder at the September 2015 "Duxford" airshow and at Goodwood for the 75th BOB celebrations.
It's down to the Commander how they display and in 2014 it was big skies away from crowd so the grumbles back then were with foundation. However still love seeing them.

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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby Andover on Sun 25 Jun 2017, 9:06 am

Did the Anson not fly at this show?
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Re: Evening Airshows

Postby LN Strike Eagle on Sun 25 Jun 2017, 9:19 am

Andover wrote:Did the Anson not fly at this show?

It did not.
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