Boeing's finest-the KC-97L

Boeing's finest-the KC-97L

Postby Fred Martin on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 7:55 pm

I'm currently working my way through a mass of real Golden Oldie prop powered beauties that once graced our skies and could not resist posting these , and yes I know they are jet augmented ! All were photographed between 1970 & 1975 at Greenham Common , Bentwaters and Upper Heyfords airshows and a few over the fence at Mildenhall , with a Praktica Nova 1b camera .

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Postby Thunder City Veteran on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 8:04 pm

WOW...Thanks for posting!! These are great! :yahoo:
They look so prestine. I never got to see one of these fly as I only started visiting the american bases from 78 onwards, but I remember seeing one on static display on the base at Offut AFB when I was part of a 216 Tristar crew tanking 111 Sqn Phantoms to Red Flag in 1988.
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Postby Keefy041 on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 8:28 pm

This is more like it, excellent stuff, keep it coming please.
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Postby Mad Dan on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:07 pm

Oh Fred... One of my all-time favourites - and how well I remember Zeppelinheim... But did you ever have a Brattwurst and Beer next to the railway station there, I wonder?

Thanks for these. They are delightful.
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Postby 3Greens on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:17 pm

Truly excellent selection and quality Fred (as usual) - remember camping out on that scrubby area under the approach at Greenham in '76 when the Texas bird 0-30327 caught us out with a very early arrival - I think even before the field and tower had officially opened up.
Thanks again for posting
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Postby Kenny on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:24 pm

What a machine!!

Here's one from the inside
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Postby Daz on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:38 pm

What a great thread as always Fred. Have you any more?
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Postby foxfour on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 9:56 pm

Superb collection of photographs from what really was the golden era of military aviation. :clap:
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Postby RobS on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 10:47 pm

Superb photos of an amazing machine. I never saw them in the air, wish I was born 10 years earlier.
Thanks for taking the time to scan and show them.
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Postby graham luxton on Wed 13 Mar 2013, 11:12 pm

What a great post Fred - enjoyed that!

Made a note of 0-30327 arriving at the Greenham IAT on Fri 30 July'76 before ATC had opened!

I also recall these from the various UK shows and of their visits to Mildenhall, including a memorable Sept'71, when I saw 11 operating from there at various times while temporarily displaced from Rhein Main.
Also saw/logged some of the KC-97L Operation`Creek Party`rotations which overflew Woodley on Airway Green1 from 1967 to 1977. Usually these were Eastbound to Rhein Main from Lajes but every now and then some would go Westbound. Normally Westbounds returning to the `States would take a Northerly route via Keflavik. Unlike the C-97, which used to cruise at Flight Level 100 and below the KC-97L regularly overflew at FL's in the band 190 to 230.

Don't believe I caught every one but the following snapshot from my 1968 log over Woodley may be of interest.
May
Wed 8 Angle07 (2007)
Sat 11 Admen04 (1935), 03 (1946), 02 (2002)
Wed 15 Admen01 (2001)
Sun 19 Flash10 (1951) - 2 a/c in formation
Sun 26 Exit12 (2039), 11 (2042)
Mon27 Exit13 (2023)

June
Sun 2 Foxy08 (2215)
Fri 7 Pixy32 (1007), 33 (1030), 34 (1054), 36 (1600)
Sun 9 Wipe10 (1455), 12 (1502), 11 (1515), 13 (1536)
Sun 16 Wipe03 (1736)

all times GMT and all Eastbound on Green1 except those on Fri 7th which flew Clacton - Brookmans Park - Woodley - Brecon

When KC-97L's air refueled in UK airspace this was conducted over the North Sea normally with the callsign `Burma11`

- a type greatly missed!
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Postby Maisie on Thu 14 Mar 2013, 12:31 am

Bloody brilliant! 2nd photo you can see black trails from the out-rig jets, imagine the noise!!
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Postby Jetnoise on Thu 14 Mar 2013, 6:52 am

Bloomin' marvellous!
Thanks for posting these and making my day!

Cheers,
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Postby Westy on Thu 14 Mar 2013, 6:13 pm

Just superb
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Postby MKR on Thu 14 Mar 2013, 7:39 pm

Great post Fred :clap: :clap:
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Postby capercaillie on Fri 15 Mar 2013, 9:13 am

Fantastic :drool:

Love the shot on the ground next to the Wessex. :clap:
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Postby st24 on Fri 15 Mar 2013, 9:34 am

It's a bold call saying it's Boeing's finest but what a fabulous beast, beautifully captured as always. A proper machine. :rock:
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Postby buccs2b on Fri 15 Mar 2013, 4:28 pm

Great set Fred. It must have been pretty hairy refuelling an F-4 from these things
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Postby BuryPensioner on Sat 15 Jun 2013, 12:07 pm

Hi Fred.. a wonderful selection of the most iconic aircraft ever to grace the skies... Apart from being a fabulous sound from those wonderful recips... the addition of the little jets just added to the thrill and magical sound of a real "man's aeroplane"... A new journal is about to be publised entitled "The Aviation Historian" and I have had the pleasure of writing an article on the subject of "Operation Creek Party" which saw the KC-97L in Europe for almost 11 years.

Was great fun researching this wonderful aircraft, and interesting to note that it was the Texas ANG who began the operation in May 1967 and the same unit closed the operation down 11 years later. How many spotters in the south east of the UK "willed" strong head winds every fortnight when the swap over at Rhein Main took place. With fuel being critical, some occasionally diverted to Mildenhall which was always a most welcomed sight.

Somehow the new, all-singing, all-dancing Airbus and larger Boeing projects conducting AAR duties cannot hold a candle to the fabulous "Strat".... Time for the Globie maybe ??????????????
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Postby AMB on Sun 16 Jun 2013, 9:14 am

Superb shots as always Fred - you never disappoint. I have shot most of those myself and remember flying to Rhein-Main AB/Frankfurt in a RAF Britannia as an ATC cadet. On landing I was staggered by the huge line-up of these on the ramp.....and I had just one roll of slide film in my camera!
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Postby Mad Dan on Mon 17 Jun 2013, 1:38 pm

AMB remarked:
I have shot most of those myself and remember flying to Rhein-Main AB/Frankfurt in a RAF Britannia as an ATC cadet. On landing I was staggered by the huge line-up of these on the ramp.....and I had just one roll of slide film in my camera!

You must have been quite an old cadet then, Adrian - Creek Party didn't start until May 1967... And there weren't usually more than five KC-97Ls present at any time for the next decade (unless one broke of course - which probably happened quite often).
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Postby swingy on Mon 17 Jun 2013, 10:39 pm

Great post. Thanks. :clap:
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