The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

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JP G-PROV left St Athan en-route to Nottingham about half hour ago.
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FR24 showing 3 of the Welsh air-ambulances at same incident in North Wales, all went to Stoke Hospital, each having to clear the helipad to allow the next to land. All returning back to bases now.

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Something foreign inbound Brize.
May be wrong, but think it's a French C-130, 'COTAM 1215'
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5847, C-130J.

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Bunch of French Alphajets out & about over Devon.
Missed where they're en-route to, though ( heard them asking for latest weather, but didn't catch where for )
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Not sure what it's up to or where it's going, but currently have Spitfire PV202 ( G-CCCA ) working Cardiff.
Edited to add....showing on FR24 as being over the Mendips
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Something big and very low just passed over Quedgeley Gloucestershire heading west at 20.45 this evening, not sure what it was, Globemaster possibly??. Any ideas?.

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Two CV-22s departed Brize around that time, heading west. :up:

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Ahh, that explains the strange engine note. Many thanks.

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A blacked out Chinook with what im sure was a V-22 following just passed very low over Quedgeley, Gloucester heading NW.

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Steve p wrote:A blacked out Chinook with what I'm sure was a V-22 following just passed very low over Quedgeley, Gloucester heading NW.


US Army MH-47G?

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Imagine it was an RAF Chinook conducting low level training.

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Tmyers123 wrote:
Steve p wrote:A blacked out Chinook with what I'm sure was a V-22 following just passed very low over Quedgeley, Gloucester heading NW.


US Army MH-47G?


Blacked out meaning no navigation lights on, another aircraft with lights on following close behind, didnt sound like a Chinook more like a V-22 hard to decipher as the Chinook was so loud.

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Two RAF Chinooks were in the area, ZH775 & ZH891. :up:

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Thankyou, my ears must have been playing tricks on me. They woke up the neighbourhood, lovely sound. :smile:

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If you check on the NATS site you'll find NOTAMs for these types of flights, such as:
( times GMT so add 1 hour )
B) FROM: 18/10/08 07:00
C) TO: 18/10/12 15:00
E) MIL EXER. UP TO 8 HEL MAY CONDUCT FORMATION FLYING WITHOUT LGT WI AREA BOUNDED BY:
504500N 0030000W - 504500N 0013000W - 500200N 0013000W - 500200N 0034000W - 501200N 0034000W - 503000N 0032000W - 503800N 0031700W - 504500N 0030000W.
(SOUTH COAST, DORSET)


B) FROM: 18/10/16 19:00
C) TO: 18/10/16 22:30
E) UP TO 4 MIL ACFT IN CLOSE FORMATION WITHOUT LGT WILL OPR IN AREA BOUNDED BY FOLLOWING COORD:
521024N 0011055W - 521020N 0010634W - 520446N 0010642W - 520448N 0011104W - 521020N 0011055W.
(VCY MORETON PINKNEY, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE)
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Bums! Again.

Been listening to something using callsign 'Alpha Alpha', pilot with foreign accent, working Cardiff for the past 20 minutes or so, inbound St Athan.
Assumed it was just another airliner for refurb/scrapping.

Nope - it's G-ONAA, the Bronco Demo Team's OV-10.

Edited to add....
And about 15 minutes after that, Strikemaster G-SOAF arrived too.

Guess HAS are going to be busy again.
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Find it amazing the number of incorrect routings showing on FR24 and other aircraft tracking sites now the schedules have changed.

Surely they are known well in advance to be loaded.

Seems to be BAW,EZY,JER and RYR are the worse affected

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They are known to the airlines.

ATC know probably 24 hours in advance as flightplans are filed.

FR24 find out as the aircraft lands at its destination.

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I understand I think

Why do FR24 only know when it arrives at the destination.

They show a routing.Some are right and alot are wrong.

Am I just being thick

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Canadian C-17, CFC3683, currently inbound Brize, if anyones interested.
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jules48,

My understanding is that the aircraft transmits its ATC call-sign/flight number as one part of the ADSB-out data string. The FR24 or ADSB-Exchange (or whatever) software then looks this up in its internal database in order to display the route. Note that some flights have dual flight-numbers: for example this morning's British Airways flight from Boston to Heathrow is BA214 as far as the passengers are concerned, and BAW80G to Air Traffic Control. It is the ATC version that ADSB uses.

However if the airline has changed its ATC flight number as part of its new winter or summer schedule, the new flight number will not be in the data-base and no route will be shown, unless it is a re-use of an existing flight number in which case the wrong route will be shown. However by observing where the aircraft takes off from and lands (ADSB-out height information = 0ft) the database can be updated (manually or possibly even automatically) with the new information.

In my experience, Lufthansa is one of the worst offenders for ATC flight-number changes every six months!

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QUID 46 currently routing to ARA11 ( Lands End ) to join with QUID 45 & 3 receivers.
Only heard '46 so far, no idea yet what the receivers are.
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F-15s, callsign has escaped me.

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I'm listening to a couple of flights en-route to North Wales MTA, callsigns WARMAN & ANIMAL ( not heard those callsigns for a while )

QUIDs have just come up on the same frequency ( 278.6 ) pretty faint from my location, and aren't working either of those.
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