The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Mon 23 Jul 2018, 12:51 pm

Another unusual one....
Gulfstream G450 currently transiting Westbound midway across the St George's Channel.
Callsign 'MEDEVAC 4A', it's listed as being HS-MS4A belonging to the Saudi Armed Forces Medical Services.
Unless it was just a stop-off, it looks to be routing out of Stansted Airport.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Wed 01 Aug 2018, 10:43 am

MIGHTY/MYTEE 91 routing Westbound, just been carrying out AAR with QUID 401 & 402 in AAR-10 ( Devon/Bristol Channel area )
'91 not showing on ADS-B Exchange....401 & 402 are listed but not showing on the map.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 17 Aug 2018, 1:03 pm

Up on an air test out of St Athan, International Spray Solutions' B737 ( G-CKUZ ) oil-spill response aircraft.
Using callsign COASTGUARD 71, showing on FR24 as JTN8007 ( currently Westbound along the Briston Channel, mid-way between Pembroke & Hartland Point )
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 23 Aug 2018, 2:57 pm

JP G-PROV left St Athan en-route to Nottingham about half hour ago.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby portagee01 on Sat 25 Aug 2018, 7:45 pm

FR24 showing 3 of the Welsh air-ambulances at same incident in North Wales, all went to Stoke Hospital, each having to clear the helipad to allow the next to land. All returning back to bases now.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Wed 29 Aug 2018, 11:03 am

Something foreign inbound Brize.
May be wrong, but think it's a French C-130, 'COTAM 1215'
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Abbo46 on Wed 29 Aug 2018, 11:09 am

5847, C-130J.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Wed 29 Aug 2018, 2:42 pm

Bunch of French Alphajets out & about over Devon.
Missed where they're en-route to, though ( heard them asking for latest weather, but didn't catch where for )
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Thu 13 Sep 2018, 10:23 am

Not sure what it's up to or where it's going, but currently have Spitfire PV202 ( G-CCCA ) working Cardiff.
Edited to add....showing on FR24 as being over the Mendips
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Steve p on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 7:53 pm

Something big and very low just passed over Quedgeley Gloucestershire heading west at 20.45 this evening, not sure what it was, Globemaster possibly??. Any ideas?.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Abbo46 on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 8:15 pm

Two CV-22s departed Brize around that time, heading west. :up:
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Steve p on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 8:24 pm

Ahh, that explains the strange engine note. Many thanks.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Steve p on Mon 08 Oct 2018, 7:30 pm

A blacked out Chinook with what I'm sure was a V-22 following just passed very low over Quedgeley, Gloucester heading NW.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Tmyers123 on Mon 08 Oct 2018, 7:44 pm

Steve p wrote:A blacked out Chinook with what I'm sure was a V-22 following just passed very low over Quedgeley, Gloucester heading NW.


US Army MH-47G?
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Abbo46 on Mon 08 Oct 2018, 7:45 pm

Imagine it was an RAF Chinook conducting low level training.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Steve p on Mon 08 Oct 2018, 7:54 pm

Tmyers123 wrote:
Steve p wrote:A blacked out Chinook with what I'm sure was a V-22 following just passed very low over Quedgeley, Gloucester heading NW.


US Army MH-47G?


Blacked out meaning no navigation lights on, another aircraft with lights on following close behind, didnt sound like a Chinook more like a V-22 hard to decipher as the Chinook was so loud.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Abbo46 on Mon 08 Oct 2018, 9:10 pm

Two RAF Chinooks were in the area, ZH775 & ZH891. :up:
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Steve p on Mon 08 Oct 2018, 9:25 pm

Thankyou, my ears must have been playing tricks on me. They woke up the neighbourhood, lovely sound. :smile:
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 09 Oct 2018, 8:36 am

If you check on the NATS site you'll find NOTAMs for these types of flights, such as:
( times GMT so add 1 hour )
B) FROM: 18/10/08 07:00
C) TO: 18/10/12 15:00
E) MIL EXER. UP TO 8 HEL MAY CONDUCT FORMATION FLYING WITHOUT LGT WI AREA BOUNDED BY:
504500N 0030000W - 504500N 0013000W - 500200N 0013000W - 500200N 0034000W - 501200N 0034000W - 503000N 0032000W - 503800N 0031700W - 504500N 0030000W.
(SOUTH COAST, DORSET)


B) FROM: 18/10/16 19:00
C) TO: 18/10/16 22:30
E) UP TO 4 MIL ACFT IN CLOSE FORMATION WITHOUT LGT WILL OPR IN AREA BOUNDED BY FOLLOWING COORD:
521024N 0011055W - 521020N 0010634W - 520446N 0010642W - 520448N 0011104W - 521020N 0011055W.
(VCY MORETON PINKNEY, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE)
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Wed 10 Oct 2018, 8:56 am

Bums! Again.

Been listening to something using callsign 'Alpha Alpha', pilot with foreign accent, working Cardiff for the past 20 minutes or so, inbound St Athan.
Assumed it was just another airliner for refurb/scrapping.

Nope - it's G-ONAA, the Bronco Demo Team's OV-10.

Edited to add....
And about 15 minutes after that, Strikemaster G-SOAF arrived too.

Guess HAS are going to be busy again.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby jules48 on Sun 28 Oct 2018, 11:50 am

Find it amazing the number of incorrect routings showing on FR24 and other aircraft tracking sites now the schedules have changed.

Surely they are known well in advance to be loaded.

Seems to be BAW,EZY,JER and RYR are the worse affected
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby cg_341 on Sun 28 Oct 2018, 12:08 pm

They are known to the airlines.

ATC know probably 24 hours in advance as flightplans are filed.

FR24 find out as the aircraft lands at its destination.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby jules48 on Sun 28 Oct 2018, 4:27 pm

I understand I think

Why do FR24 only know when it arrives at the destination.

They show a routing.Some are right and alot are wrong.

Am I just being thick
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby Brevet Cable on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 9:11 am

Canadian C-17, CFC3683, currently inbound Brize, if anyones interested.
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Re: The FR24/PlanePlotter Thread

Postby roger on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 10:31 am

jules48,

My understanding is that the aircraft transmits its ATC call-sign/flight number as one part of the ADSB-out data string. The FR24 or ADSB-Exchange (or whatever) software then looks this up in its internal database in order to display the route. Note that some flights have dual flight-numbers: for example this morning's British Airways flight from Boston to Heathrow is BA214 as far as the passengers are concerned, and BAW80G to Air Traffic Control. It is the ATC version that ADSB uses.

However if the airline has changed its ATC flight number as part of its new winter or summer schedule, the new flight number will not be in the data-base and no route will be shown, unless it is a re-use of an existing flight number in which case the wrong route will be shown. However by observing where the aircraft takes off from and lands (ADSB-out height information = 0ft) the database can be updated (manually or possibly even automatically) with the new information.

In my experience, Lufthansa is one of the worst offenders for ATC flight-number changes every six months!

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