RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby Chris G on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 2:25 pm

CJS wrote:Didn't the Raptor display at both RIAT and Duxford just last year?


One was display other was Heritage Flight.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby CJS on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:02 pm

Chris G wrote:
CJS wrote:Didn't the Raptor display at both RIAT and Duxford just last year?


One was display other was Heritage Flight.


Same aircraft (wasn't it?) at two shows on the same day though. It could as easily have been two full displays.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby Chris G on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:35 pm

No it couldn't, look at the Raptor display schedule, has it ever done two displays on the same day! The Heritage flight is a totally different type of performance from the solo demo.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby CJS on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 5:23 pm

Yep I know that, I naively assumed it would be the same plane and same pilot and therefore could be the same display.

Anyway, it was still two displays in one day from the same aircraft at different locations :-).

So we're both right. ;-)
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby Spotty_Jag on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 6:15 pm

We'll see what happens come September. Maybe the Belgian F-16 will come across in return for the RAF contributions to Sanicole, but as for the assortment of other foreign displays I can't see it happening.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby BossMann on Sun 12 Mar 2017, 3:45 pm

The Belgian F16 solo display has displayed at more than one show in different countries on the same day ( Waddington/ Belgian Air Days 2010 ) so it would be nice if the Belgians could send it to Scampton in return for the Red Arrows/ Typhoon and BBMF DC3.

It would be nicer if the Belgians could send their Thunder Tiger F16 formation across too - I wouldn't be complaining! they could also send their Red Devils team and A109 demos but I don't know if it will be possible for them to transit and display and then fly back to Sanicole...

As for the other items to 'share' I don't think the national aerobatic teams apart from the Reds do 2 displays in one day so the only possibility would be the saturday when there is no show at Sanicole.

It could be bad in 2018 as the planned Scampton airshow dates ( second weekend in Sept) clash with the Belgian Air Days planned dates at KB which normally have an impressive line up. Waddington used to suffer from clashes with the Belgian Air Days when it used to be in July until the Belgians shifted their dates so its a shame that the show that replaces Waddington is going through the same problem - maybe Scampton needs to switch dates????
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby sithrity on Sun 12 Mar 2017, 9:36 pm

BossMann wrote:The Belgian F16 solo display has displayed at more than one show in different countries on the same day ( Waddington/ Belgian Air Days 2010 ) so it would be nice if the Belgians could send it to Scampton in return for the Red Arrows/ Typhoon and BBMF DC3.

It would be nicer if the Belgians could send their Thunder Tiger F16 formation across too - I wouldn't be complaining! they could also send their Red Devils team and A109 demos but I don't know if it will be possible for them to transit and display and then fly back to Sanicole...

As for the other items to 'share' I don't think the national aerobatic teams apart from the Reds do 2 displays in one day so the only possibility would be the saturday when there is no show at Sanicole.

It could be bad in 2018 as the planned Scampton airshow dates ( second weekend in Sept) clash with the Belgian Air Days planned dates at KB which normally have an impressive line up. Waddington used to suffer from clashes with the Belgian Air Days when it used to be in July until the Belgians shifted their dates so its a shame that the show that replaces Waddington is going through the same problem - maybe Scampton needs to switch dates????



I've no idea what the Belgian F-16 solo display team (or any other display) has planned. But if they are displaying at Sanicole that weekend, wouldn't it make more sense for them to return the favour at RIAT, Cosford or another UK air show? Just a thought, although anything's possible.

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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby benji1867 on Sun 12 Mar 2017, 10:09 pm

BossMann wrote:The Belgian F16 solo display has displayed at more than one show in different countries on the same day ( Waddington/ Belgian Air Days 2010 ) so it would be nice if the Belgians could send it to Scampton in return for the Red Arrows/ Typhoon and BBMF DC3.

It would be nicer if the Belgians could send their Thunder Tiger F16 formation across too - I wouldn't be complaining! they could also send their Red Devils team and A109 demos but I don't know if it will be possible for them to transit and display and then fly back to Sanicole...

As for the other items to 'share' I don't think the national aerobatic teams apart from the Reds do 2 displays in one day so the only possibility would be the saturday when there is no show at Sanicole.

It could be bad in 2018 as the planned Scampton airshow dates ( second weekend in Sept) clash with the Belgian Air Days planned dates at KB which normally have an impressive line up. Waddington used to suffer from clashes with the Belgian Air Days when it used to be in July until the Belgians shifted their dates so its a shame that the show that replaces Waddington is going through the same problem - maybe Scampton needs to switch dates????



Belgian F16 will most likely be at RIAT and has already been announced for Biggin Hill.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby boff180 on Tue 14 Mar 2017, 4:14 pm

First official participation list has just been published!

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RAF Falcons
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BBMF Spitfire x4
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby DerekF on Tue 14 Mar 2017, 4:19 pm

Isn't that all of the RAF's displays for 2017?

An absolute minimum for Scampton I would have thought.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby capercaillie on Tue 14 Mar 2017, 4:24 pm

DerekF wrote:Isn't that all of the RAF's displays for 2017?

An absolute minimum for Scampton I would have thought.


Not quite, Tutor is missing surprisingly! Not sure if we'll get a Chinook this year?
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby Stagger2 on Wed 15 Mar 2017, 12:40 pm

benji1867 wrote:Belgian F16 will most likely be at RIAT and has already been announced for Biggin Hill.

Probably small coincidence really that the Belgian F-16 being committed to Biggin Hill almost begs for inclusion in the Airbourne Eastbourne International Air-show (free-to-view :whistle:) that same weekend. :wink:
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby vulcan55 on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 10:17 am

Belgium F16 confirmed.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby Luke28 on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 12:51 pm

At Sanicole the same day, I know Its not exactly far but if thats true then that shows a huge commitment to the UK airshow scene from the Belgians, who already massively support our shows.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby mafro987daboss on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 3:37 pm

Luke28 wrote:At Sanicole the same day, I know Its not exactly far but if thats true then that shows a huge commitment to the UK airshow scene from the Belgians, who already massively support our shows.


It's amazing. They've already been confirmed by 4 UK shows this year and look likely to do 2 more.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby CJS on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 4:40 pm

Also means none of the acts for Sanicole need be ruled out yet - at least not for logistical reasons.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby clearstone on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 4:45 pm

CJS - realms of fantasy spring to mind with that comment.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby boff180 on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 6:03 pm

clearstone wrote:CJS - realms of fantasy spring to mind with that comment.

No, not really.

If we have one act being shared there is still a chance some of the others will to... it's a case of wait and see.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby clearstone on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 7:00 pm

No doubt there will a handful. But 'none' ???

A healthy dose of reality is needed here. A handful of acts can and may support both, but many of the acts confirmed for Sanicole simply don't have the ability to support two different displays on the same day in different countries. The Belgians are (very) rare exceptions. Not even the RAF are contemplating supporting Sanicole and Scampton on the Sunday with the same acts. And many of the Sanicole acts will need to keep the Saturday free for rehearsal flights.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby CJS on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 7:05 pm

For goodness' sake, wasn't it obvious what I meant? You can't rule any of them out.

What's there to take issue with?
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby craig.mason on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:53 pm

Next aircraft to be added to the scampton lineup will be ????
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby capercaillie on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:54 pm

craig.mason wrote:Next aircraft to be added to the scampton lineup will be ????


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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby Spotty_Jag on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 3:46 pm

No RAF Tutor or RAF Falcons for Scampton. Adds fuel to the "not an RAF airshow" fire doesn't it...... :hide:
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby vulcan55 on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 8:30 pm

RAF Falcons are on List for Scampton last time i looked.
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Re: RAF Scampton Air Show 2017

Postby CJS on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 8:56 pm

Spotty_Jag wrote:No RAF Tutor or RAF Falcons for Scampton. Adds fuel to the "not an RAF airshow" fire doesn't it...... :hide:


But it's *not* an RAF airshow so there's no fire to fuel.
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