Scampton Airshow 2018

Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby XX752 on Fri 22 Sep 2017, 1:11 pm

n0143773 wrote:
XX752 wrote:
RIAT Air Ops wrote:
n0143773 wrote:Can't believe all the discussion. Simple summary of 2017:

1. Ticket prices were too high, in so far as they did not offer value for money when comparing the flying display to other alternatives;
2. The quality of the flying display was poor. This had nothing to do with a lack of effort from DBH - it was purely down to other nations simply prioritising other shows, or seeing little benefit in attending, some having already made the effort to attend others in the UK throughout the year.

Let's move on and see how 2018 compares (point 1 can be resolved, chances are point 2 won't be).


I've disagreed with your views in the past but this time Point 1. Subjective if only looking at it from a flying display perspective. Point 2. nail/head - done. :up:

Wonder how many folks complaining about ticket prices (not necessarily folks on here) were happily stumping up to have a ride in the Pleasure Flying helicopters?

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If your views are representative of the organisers then it is clear you think you know best. All I can say is you are extremely fortunate that the area is bereft of airshows. If Cosford, Biggin Hill etc were closer then I think this venue would struggle for what is offered for the cost.


Bit harsh. They obviously do know best to a certain extent - look at the attendance figures. The show did well regardless of the ticket prices. And mentioning other locations is somewhat obsolete - they are nowhere near Scampton and therefore local supply v demand justifies a higher ticket price.

However, for enthusiasts or people who will attend multiple airshows - the observation is merely that Scampton didn't offer value for money in our eyes, when compared to others. To the general population, it obviously did though. DBH could keep the same prices next year (that's what I'd do) and get similar attendance, if not greater, with a better flying display (which is largely down to luck).


I did say 'if' the show had others near it. And you are correct, from an enthusiasts point of view the show will be little different next years in terms of cost or content. And I suppose it does not need to be judging by the attendance.
XX752

Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby Finningley Boy on Sat 23 Sep 2017, 11:45 am

I'm not about to go into forensic detail re: Scampton 2017, I'll leave that for others who feel they are better placed. What I do find comical are comments such as FB with

I would like to hope that the organisers; DBH/RIAT air ops, have simply dropped the Scampton Ball this year and have their finger out from here on in.
and BossMann with

Dear DBH/RIAT air ops,

I'm sure you all worked flat out to achieve the very best results. But all should know by now, that no amount of advance preparation and working of fingers to the bone and sacrificing of personal time will produce the results as far as impressive iron air mongerey goes if the organisers insist on picking dates that clash with large airshows over the continent. In that sense, yes someone definitely did not do their homework when the show got under way back 2016. One would have hoped thatat least for next year, a lesson would now have been hoisted and the next dates set would be 22nd and 23rd September. Oh but of course there is absolutely nowhere to billet anyone attending apart from the student digs of Lincoln. And of course as you are not the RAF, or the RN or.... how do you get on at Fairford interestingly enough? :cuppa: RAF Waddington always launched the same explanation when their show was lacklustre, most memorably in 2009. I'm bored myself repeating this point but I still haven't got a definitive answer as to why? Why can't accommodation be found at Waddington, Cranwell, Coningsby and the rest in Hotels around Lincoln? Surely that's what RIAT at Fairford do? Yeovilton is a Naval base maybe, but its not a spralling base, do they manage to accompany all on the base for air day?

You responded to ntelephone number's forecast that the flying next year won't be any better and don't seem at all regretful at that. Just what is the mission statement for Scampton? Is it a 'family' show as has been stated officially which would mean that the display will always be known for props, The Global Stars, Anson, Pembroke and the paltry RAF line up coupled with over exuberant commentary? Just like this year! Or is the aim to become RIAT in September? I truly would like to attend an air show in the UK to celebrate my own air force's centenary, the same RAF that my Father, Sister, Brother, Brother in Law and Nephew served in and which another nephew, my Brother's son currently serves in. But if it looks like, by the end of April, that Scampton's flying, the whole point of the event, is looking like it'll be filled with filler again, oh and the BBMF, Reds, Falcons and Typhoon but nothing else from the Birthday service then I'll just have to start conserving my resources to head off to the Czech Republic to celebrate their Air Force's centenary, and I'll wager it'll be a corker as well. Failing that, and more likely, then Klein Brogel.

But I really hope I end up eating my words and Scampton does become the RIAT of the North. By the way, what happened to Dan's post? Is free speech on here getting the same treatment as elsewhere now?

XX752

I think I'd rather see the Officers' Mess become a country hotel in the Marriot chain or whatever if the MOD feel they'll never ever find a use for it again, it must be a listed building as well. But what an absolute buggered up situation eh!?!

Further, I don't think it too unlikely to imagine that it could be returned to its former glory like the other buildings! :wink:

FB :biggrin:
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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby FarnboroJohn on Wed 27 Sep 2017, 6:34 am

I thought the Scampton Ball was DBH cosying up to the RAF brass and was glad it had been dropped, then realised it was just misuse of capitals: renews resolve to read all posts very carefully before commenting.....

(and apologies to DBH!)

John
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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby BossMann on Wed 11 Oct 2017, 12:04 pm

Strangely the Scampton Air Show website doesn't mention anything about the 2018 show???
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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby Finningley Boy on Wed 11 Oct 2017, 8:11 pm

BossMann wrote:Strangely the Scampton Air Show website doesn't mention anything about the 2018 show???

For God's sake don't start that rumour going. :wall:

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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Thu 12 Oct 2017, 6:57 am

BossMann wrote:Strangely the Scampton Air Show website doesn't mention anything about the 2018 show???


8th - 9th September, 2018 according to this year's programme.
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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby Finningley Boy on Thu 12 Oct 2017, 8:39 am

Wrexham Mackem wrote:
BossMann wrote:Strangely the Scampton Air Show website doesn't mention anything about the 2018 show???


8th - 9th September, 2018 according to this year's programme.


And indeed, according to Flightline UK and all other publications. The Scampton website may need to be updated or about to be redesigned. :cuppa:

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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby Finningley Boy on Sun 15 Oct 2017, 5:27 pm

https://www.RAF.mod.uk/raf100/whats-on/ ... n-airshow/

The link above seems quite official.

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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby aviodromefriend on Mon 16 Oct 2017, 10:54 am

Finningley Boy wrote:https://www.RAF.mod.uk/raf100/whats-on/scampton-airshow/

The link above seems quite official.

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Falling towards the end of the RAF100 year, this airshow at the home of the RAF Red Arrows will be better than ever
Much Scampton airshow events having taken place in the past it has to beat in 2018.
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Re: Scampton Airshow 2018

Postby CJS on Mon 16 Oct 2017, 7:38 pm

Say what now?
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