RIAT 2012 Participants

Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby capercaillie on Thu 10 May 2012, 4:56 pm

SilentFlight wrote:
swingy wrote:Quick question.

At RIAT what is the typical legth of time allocated for each display act?


Max Runway times (inc Take Off and Landing)

Rotary Wing 8 mins
Fixed Wing 10 mins
Disp Team 12 mins (Upto 3 A/C)
Disp Team : Individually Agreed (4+ A/C)


On those timings I reckon the Solo Turk F-16 and the Raptor must qualify as 4+ aircraft demo teams :whistle:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Meep on Thu 10 May 2012, 5:13 pm

aldershot wrote:
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aldershot wrote:Last year they had 55 flying display but this year their is only 27 so a lot of flying displays to come :biggrin:


How many of those were Solo displays?

Don't forget, we have 8 fast jets, 5 teams, the A-400, Vulcan, Osprey and others.... It's a decent and full looking line up!


But their are some big regulars missing :smile:

Really? I'm not sure I'd agree.

Amongst the fast jets, the regulars are attending: Typhoon, Tornado, Belgian and Dutch F-16s, Swedish Gripen, Rafale (a recent regular). There is no American fast jet, but no specific jet is a regular, and its not a RIAT issue, its an airshow issues as a whole. Whilst there have been a variety of fast jets in recent years, none have been regulars.

I think people's perception is tainted by 2 things. What USED to be regular, 10 years ago, which now are seen sometimes, or rarely. And secondly, the general reaction driven by the US participation, which people are making out to be worse than it is
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Kieran on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:16 pm

npsaila wrote:
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NEWS: With the eight-hour flying display programme already crammed full of exciting aircraft the amount of space still available is fast diminishing. However, planners in the Air Ops department believe there is one more fast jet to be added to the line-up with an announcement anticipated shortly.


That'll be the Super Hornet then!

Andy


Think I'll go with you on that one Andy ;)


Could be, then again it might not be. The Super Hornet may already be in the flying display lineup. As well as that, I doubt the Super Hornet could be the last potential fast jet solo as RIAT have mentioned, they hope to make an announcement of it shortly. As much as the Super Bug is an outstanding display, it's been quite common to see one appear at RIAT when it's been a Farnborough year since 2004. Also, Farnborough announced yesterday the S.H would be appearing, so it's now seen as a given for it to be at RIAT too, therefore why the need to make an announcement?

As others have said, it could allude to another item. Thinking outside of the box, it could be any of the following:

-Italian Typhoon/ Tornado
-Slovak MiG 29
-SHF Viggen/Draken
-RDAF F-16
-UAE Mirage 2000
-French Navy Rafale Solo
-Hungarian Gripen

Time will tell, I guess..
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Mad Dan on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:38 pm

It'll be a JF-17 then!!!
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Kieran on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:42 pm

Mad Dan wrote:It'll be a JF-17 then!!!
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That's what I thought after I posted that! :lol:

Or it could be a Ukrainian Su-27... :snack:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby stonesfan on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:42 pm

The Super Hornet and the Viggen would do it for me!
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby cal1010 on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:44 pm

I don't like to speculate in the participants thread, especially as this is my first post, but looking at the Swedish historic flight website, FIA and RIAT appear to be on their list...

http://swafhf.se/Program/Program-12-7.html

Now, I'm certainly no expert in the Swedish language so someone feel free to correct me if necessary :smile:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Mad Dan on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:45 pm

Link doesn't work - for me, anyway.,..
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby cal1010 on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:47 pm

Mad Dan wrote:Link doesn't work - for me, anyway.,..


Oh, sorry about that. I'll try and get it sorted out ASAP
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby vulcan57 on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:50 pm

SilentFlight wrote:
swingy wrote:Quick question.

At RIAT what is the typical legth of time allocated for each display act?


Max Runway times (inc Take Off and Landing)

Rotary Wing 8 mins
Fixed Wing 10 mins
Disp Team 12 mins (Upto 3 A/C)
Disp Team : Individually Agreed (4+ A/C)


And that's not continuous flying, if you allow 5 mins between displays and if there are 27 of those, then you'll need to add on another good 2 hours to the total display time. Think that will mean its getting close to being full.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby cal1010 on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:51 pm

Try my link now and see if it works if you wish. Apologies for lots of posts!
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Kieran on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:52 pm

cal1010 wrote:Try my link now and see if it works if you wish. Apologies for lots of posts!


Hmm that's just a general airshow calendar list! Doubt the SHF will be going to places like Old Warden! :lol:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby cal1010 on Thu 10 May 2012, 6:56 pm

Kieran wrote:
cal1010 wrote:Try my link now and see if it works if you wish. Apologies for lots of posts!


Hmm that's just a general airshow calendar list! Doubt the SHF will be going to places like Old Warden! :lol:


Whoops! Should have realised that :oops: Saying that, I don't know what the team logo after an airshow is supposed to mean?

In the mean time, great work on the show so far to all involved. Particularly looking forward to the MiG-29, Rafale, Black Eagles and A400M.

Looking forward to the next fast jet announcement too - though I suspect, like others, that it will be the Super Hornet.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby APG on Thu 10 May 2012, 7:38 pm

Perhaps it's Farnborough unannounced star no probably Mad Dan is right :wink:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby the concerned on Fri 11 May 2012, 8:02 am

would the last slots be alocated to diamond jubilee celebrations not extra aircraft.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby davers on Fri 11 May 2012, 11:15 am

would the the flypast be on the the Friday like in 2008.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby Millsey on Fri 11 May 2012, 12:07 pm

vulcan57 wrote:
SilentFlight wrote:
swingy wrote:Quick question.

At RIAT what is the typical legth of time allocated for each display act?


Max Runway times (inc Take Off and Landing)

Rotary Wing 8 mins
Fixed Wing 10 mins
Disp Team 12 mins (Upto 3 A/C)
Disp Team : Individually Agreed (4+ A/C)


And that's not continuous flying, if you allow 5 mins between displays and if there are 27 of those, then you'll need to add on another good 2 hours to the total display time. Think that will mean its getting close to being full.


Well, from my experience I've noticed that they tend to launch several a/c and then 'stack' them ready for their displays. There isn't usually too much of a gap between the displays, in fact I think it's pretty good that some of them overlap which makes for some nice and unexpected flyby's.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby swingy on Fri 11 May 2012, 12:30 pm

Hey I am happy. By my calcs i reckon we still have space for some sort of Jubilee thing plus two or 3 more things in flying. Now to fill up the static over the coming weeks. Looking good I have to say.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby matty82 on Fri 11 May 2012, 2:37 pm

I have to say Im very pleased with how this show is shaping up. Its looking like my best RIAT so far and theres still at least another 7 updates to come! So plenty of chance to get some more unexpected bonuses in the static display or even flying!! Great stuff and good work RIAT :clap:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby chrisward123 on Fri 11 May 2012, 3:04 pm

Great additions so far.
Looking likely that the Breitling Jet Team will be confirmed in the week or so.
Also would expect the RAF Chinook and US Hornet to be confirmed aswell.
Also confirmed on their website is the OV-10 Bronco for Static.

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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby tomcatforever on Fri 11 May 2012, 3:35 pm

Looking back through this thread. The US Navy Leap Frog Parachute Team never got officially announced by RIAT, not that some will care :grin:
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby npsaila on Fri 11 May 2012, 4:56 pm

tomcatforever wrote:Looking back through this thread. The US Navy Leap Frog Parachute Team never got officially announced by RIAT, not that some will care :grin:


Lately I contacted the Leap Frogs, and they said they won't be able to do it for RIAT.
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby UK Airshow Review on Fri 11 May 2012, 5:59 pm

npsaila wrote:
tomcatforever wrote:Looking back through this thread. The US Navy Leap Frog Parachute Team never got officially announced by RIAT, not that some will care :grin:


Lately I contacted the Leap Frogs, and they said they won't be able to do it for RIAT.


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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby JJC on Fri 11 May 2012, 6:18 pm

They are still down to be at RIAT, according to their schedule here at least :smile:

http://www.leapfrogs.navy.mil/pdf/Schedule.pdf
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Re: RIAT 2012 Participants

Postby DanH on Fri 11 May 2012, 8:38 pm

Sounds interesting, wonder what it could be.
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