scotthldr wrote:Geoff you leave me a bit confused here with regard s to your reference of the F16 GB. You mention "from another thread on here" but then refer to it as "a good proportion of the posters there have them" can you please clarify.
Scott i do hope you are taking this in the spirit it was intended as your reply doesnt reflect that. I have admitted to you in the past that i am hampered by my poor use of English and i expect this may be why.
I however cant see where the confusion is as im sure we have both posted in that thread. Just to clarify, its Craigs "Planned Builds" thread, and seen as you say it takes 5 to tango in a GB, these guys have F-16 builds planned
Mr Fibble has various F-16 builds
James V F-16I Sufa(in progress now?)
Some chap named Scott has a Greek F-16D
Deacon F-16MLU and AM/BM
Thommo F-16D 52+
Tom Twin F-16I
And as i have a F-16B in the stash and an F-16I Sufa as a future purchase, that makes 8 potential participants.
scotthldr wrote:The reason for changing the name in my proposal is to reflect the idea better, we can hardly call it a Group Build when your lucky if 4 people join in.
A calendar as in the present format isn't needed and was/is too tying, a calendar showing what months/weeks are available to anyone wishing to host a subject would be beneficial. The may both be called calendars but their purpose is different. Again you refer to "Overlapping seems to be working somewhere else" can you please clarify where? The idea behind the no voting was that anyone wishing to host a GB had the opportunity to do so, hence bringing people into the modelling circle which was one of the main intentions behind the GB. Regards where the Arab Air Power GB was in the queue I don't see what you're getting at, at the end of the day it was a queue and something had to be last I've never had a problem with it being there.
On a personal level, seeing that calender, i knew what was coming up and gave me the chance to purchase kits if need be and plan in other builds. Ok, it didnt always work for me but hey ho! On Fighter Control, remember them Thunder, there are GBs running one at a time and as one comes to an end, another one starts with an overlap of 2(ish) weeks.
Your last bit, i think you are taking it a wee bit too seriously, but to expand, on FC a bunch of subjects were put forward and then voted on. The most popular GBs were put up as the first 5 with a timetable. Now taking that over here and applying it to the last time GBs were picked, AS AN EXAMPLE, if we voted, we might have seen what appears to be the popular Arab GB would have been high up the list and the more recent lesser attended GBs might have been dropped and we would not be having this thread! It is most certainly not about the Arab GB being last in the queue and i have never mentioned i though you had a problem with that. I have to ask though, and im sure i mentioned it at the time, you coming in and championing you GB as early as you did, could that have been detrimental to the GBs around that time and up till now? I am not knocking you her, just asking a question.
scotthldr wrote:The reason behind the "harsh" rule of the host must play an active role is to make those aware that they are taking on a commitment not only to themselves but for the others that have supported him/her by buying kits and materials in order to partake in the subject. If people don't want the commitment then don't step forward. However with the idea that there won't be a 18 month pre booked calendar the likelihood of this happening is small, if for personnel reasons the host couldn't take part then I wouldn't for see any problem in re scheduling to a later date. If people just simply vanish with out explanation then the rule would apply. My Arab Air Power GB is a prime example of why 18 mth calendars don't work, at the time of suggesting the idea I had no idea my partner was going to be expecting our 2nd child bang in the middle of it, and with having to find a new home as well my time is going to be very tight, however I will take an active role including building but can't promise I'll finish it.
Im baffled by this last bit! Why would or should we ban you from hosting a future GB if your life takes a change as it is about to? I hope i have proved, and Deacon certainly has, that there are people prepared to jump in and take over running of GBs if need be! Banning hosts who have been fortunate as in your case, or less than fortunate would only lead to nobody willing to run GBs in the first place. I dont think the 18mth calender didnt work in this case as you describe. You could still host the Arab GB and guide people on, so what if you circumstance change!!! What we do here is only a hobby and its supposed to be fun!!! Life has to come first!