CV22 crash

CV22 crash

Postby pb643 on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 8:30 am

http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/santa_rosa/cv-22-osprey-crashes-on-eglin-range

Hopefully this will not affect the aircraft for Fairford and Farnborough.

Phil
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Two_Squirrels on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 8:41 am

Gosh yes. How inconvenient of them.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby pbeardmore on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:09 am

5 crew were injured. I think their well being may be a higher priority than airshow appearences.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Inthrustwetrust on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:47 am

I still blame the south Africans for crashing the Shakleton on the way to RIAT, and the Bulgarians (?) for crashing their Il-28 4 days prior to the show too.

Bloody inconvenient for us enthusiasts, especially after we have paid out all that money :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

Its only metal, there was flesh and blood inside which in any sane persons book has priority.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby neilos on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:49 am

pb643 wrote:http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/santa_rosa/cv-22-osprey-crashes-on-eglin-range

Hopefully this will not affect the aircraft for Fairford and Farnborough.

Phil


Yeah, I'm sure they'll patch it up for Fairford etc... :roll:
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Distant Thunder on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:21 am

I would imagine they will be effected if it is a technical problem with the type. They may all end up grounded until investigations are carried out.

If it was Pilot error more chance they will be ok to come.

Fingers crossed all on board are ok. As said before lives are more important than a display
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby StevenH on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:34 am

pb643 wrote:http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/santa_rosa/cv-22-osprey-crashes-on-eglin-range

Hopefully this will not affect the aircraft for Fairford and Farnborough.

Phil

How sensitive of you... :facepalm:
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Dragon Rapide on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:39 am

Any crash is bad news, and it's worse if people are injured and a tragedy if there is loss of life. And we are worrying about its appearance at an airshow??!! :wat: :wat:
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby p2philip on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 11:51 am

Come on people are you serious? 7 posts with the same message!?

That the health condition of people is #1 priority with air crashes or other accidents should be common sense and the thread starter did not claim otherwise. Still there is no point in discussing that matter.

Of course it is interesting for people on a UK airshow board if that crash affects upcoming events.
Without disrespect to the injured crew, I see more sense in discussions about the airshow appearance of the aircraft type in question than get well soon wishes (or RIP messages in other cases) that no one of the crew or their relatives will ever read...

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Re: CV22 crash

Postby pb643 on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 12:36 pm

Wow, you guys are unbelievable!

Talk about talking a perfectly innocent remark out of context.

I really must remember to make it clear next time, if I would prefer the crew to recover quickly or suffer a long lingering illness/death.

Phil

(P2philip thank you for your note of common sense.)
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby st24 on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 12:42 pm

Incredulous over reaction here fellas.... We are after all an aviation enthusiasts forum, for enthusiasts and if theres an incident that may prevent us from seeing, publicly a really interesting aeroplane or 2 that are booked and we're all looking forward to seeing then yeh, we may just mention it. Not the slighest whiff of pb643 being unsympathetic or apportioning blame yet you all let lose with a tirade of abuse. Give the guy a break... :roll:
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Dragon Rapide on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 12:50 pm

Just to put it into persdpective. The OP posted the story and hoped the incident would not affect the planned airshow appearances. He made no other comment so made no mention of the 5 injured crew members.

Since we can have no possible idea, at this stage, whether or not air display appearances will be affected, I don't see posts in the thread as a great overreaction.

Yes we are an aviation forum and free to discuss and debate as we choose, but to speculate on a subject about which we have absolutley no information does seem a little pointless.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby krustydave on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 12:52 pm

st24 wrote:Incredulous over reaction here fellas.... We are after all an aviation enthusiasts forum, for enthusiasts and if theres an incident that may prevent us from seeing, publicly a really interesting aeroplane or 2 that are booked and we're all looking forward to seeing then yeh, we may just mention it. Not the slighest whiff of pb643 being unsympathetic or apportioning blame yet you all let lose with a tirade of abuse. Give the guy a break... :roll:


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Re: CV22 crash

Postby stratocaster on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 12:54 pm

Hope all are ok.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby st24 on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 1:07 pm

Dragon Rapide wrote: but to speculate on a subject about which we have absolutley no information does seem a little pointless.


Where, in ...

"http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/santa_rosa/cv-22-osprey-crashes-on-eglin-range

Hopefully this will not affect the aircraft for Fairford and Farnborough.

Phil"

......is there any speculation?!?
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby pbeardmore on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 2:56 pm

st24 wrote:Incredulous over reaction here fellas.... We are after all an aviation enthusiasts forum, for enthusiasts and if theres an incident that may prevent us from seeing, publicly a really interesting aeroplane or 2 that are booked and we're all looking forward to seeing then yeh, we may just mention it. Not the slighest whiff of pb643 being unsympathetic or apportioning blame yet you all let lose with a tirade of abuse. Give the guy a break... :roll:


If you think that this thread has included a "tyrade of abuse", then your frame of reference maybe a little limited. I think it bodes well for the forum in general that, although we are passionate about aviation, we like to keep things in perspective and mostly realise that there are more important things in life than appearances at domestic airshows.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby AMB on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 3:43 pm

Yet another Osprey crash...and to think they are trying to flog it to the Canadians as a replacement for their SAR Buffalos & Labradors. Not sure I would want to be rescued by one!
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby TonyO on Thu 14 Jun 2012, 4:49 pm

AMB wrote:Yet another Osprey crash...and to think they are trying to flog it to the Canadians as a replacement for their SAR Buffalos & Labradors. Not sure I would want to be rescued by one!


Surprisingly it was one of the safest aircraft in the inventory. Will be interesting to see how the stats change with this and the accident in Morocco!
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Russ on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 8:43 am

AFSOC are not grounding the CV-22 fleet anyway...

Air Force Osprey fleet remains on duty despite recent crash
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby toom317 on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

AMB wrote:Not sure I would want to be rescued by one!


If you needed rescued, I bet you'd be more than willing to get on.
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Dragon Rapide on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 9:15 am

Thinking of the development history of the concept it is interesting that there was a gap of nearly 30 years between the proof of concept and success of the Bell XV-3 and the (C)V-22. Anyone know why?
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby TonyO on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 12:53 pm

The best history of the V-22 and its forebearers can be found in this book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Dream-Machi ... 1416562958
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Dragon Rapide on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 1:38 pm

Interesting although the title does not suggest an objective or impartial account of the development of the technology, which is what I wondered about. :smile:
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby TonyO on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 2:02 pm

It's about as impartial as you can get, despite the term 'notorious,' but its fair to say that at the beginning, that is exactly what it was!
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Re: CV22 crash

Postby Dragon Rapide on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 2:06 pm

Well I will give it a read, especially as Amazon have low priced copies. Thanks.
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