2009 show

Re: 2009 show

Postby Ben Montgomery on Mon 26 Jan 2009, 12:07 pm

Domvickery wrote:Well with only the typhoon as the single loud fast jet I'd love to see the belgian or dutch f-16 (or both!!) and an f-15 from lakenheath dont think their too unreasonable the belgians visited duxford last year, a harrier I used to love their arrivals in the morning!!. Also lots of civvy jets sea vixen, xh558, hunter, coventry's meteor all relatively close. But as you said with no role demo cosford could well be a major disappoinment this year.


Dont know if you will get the LN F-15 for anything other than a flyby. I thinkt the display pilots are based in the US, and fly LN aircraft when they come here for big shows like RIAT.
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Re: 2009 show

Postby garethbrum on Mon 26 Jan 2009, 4:35 pm

TheOriginalMonty wrote:
Domvickery wrote:Well with only the typhoon as the single loud fast jet I'd love to see the belgian or dutch f-16 (or both!!) and an f-15 from lakenheath dont think their too unreasonable the belgians visited duxford last year, a harrier I used to love their arrivals in the morning!!. Also lots of civvy jets sea vixen, xh558, hunter, coventry's meteor all relatively close. But as you said with no role demo cosford could well be a major disappoinment this year.


Dont know if you will get the LN F-15 for anything other than a flyby. I thinkt the display pilots are based in the US, and fly LN aircraft when they come here for big shows like RIAT.


Absolutely correct Ben - The Strike Eagle demo team is US based at Seymour Johnson AFB I think and they "borrow" LN jets if they come to Europe.

I would have thought that something Dutch or Belgian would have been more likely for Cosford - assuming the flying display committee actually hasmthe forethought to realise that the show is missing some "noise". But don't forget folks, as I keep harping on, that foreign participation is by no means key to the RAF engagement strategy, so don't hold your breath!!
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Re: 2009 show

Postby NWest on Mon 26 Jan 2009, 6:27 pm

But don't forget folks, as I keep harping on, that foreign participation is by no means key to the RAF engagement strategy, so don't hold your breath!!

In terms of the engagement strategy, now the role demo is gone how about a "Royal Air Force Through Time" tableaux, showing visitors/taxpayers the past (using historic aircraft/jets) and the present (through the solos/teams). How about a progression through Great War Team, Hawker Nimrod, WW2 Airfield Attack/scramble (involving the Me-108 pair and a couple of Spits), Meteor/Vampire duo (a la Kemble/Jersey) and Hunter 'Miss Demeanour' (always popular!), followed by a progression through Tutor, Tucano, Hawk, King Air, Falcons, Typhoon and Reds.

Ok, nothing new or outlandish here but a bit more thought into the sequencing of items to provide something a bit more cohesive for an enthusiast. And it's not as though this sort of sequencing is unachievable - the Southend and Southport seafront shows as well as Kemble and Biggin have been good at doing this in the last couple of years. And, more to the point, things like the Great War Team, the WW2 Airfield attack and 'Miss Demeanour' are also a hit with the general public.
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Shaft on Thu 05 Feb 2009, 2:35 pm

just herd a rumour that Cosford might not be on now this year? anyone else herd this????

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Re: 2009 show

Postby garethbrum on Thu 05 Feb 2009, 4:31 pm

Shaft wrote:just herd a rumour that Cosford might not be on now this year? anyone else herd this????

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Where's the rumour circulating Neil?

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Re: 2009 show

Postby PeterR on Thu 05 Feb 2009, 5:50 pm

:shock:

I hope not though...
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Shaft on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 11:08 am

its just what I herd yesterday talking to one of the other possible displays pilots, apparently it has something to do with the sponsors (or lack of them I should say)

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Re: 2009 show

Postby st24 on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 11:57 am

Shaft wrote:its just what I herd yesterday talking to one of the other possible displays pilots, apparently it has something to do with the sponsors (or lack of them I should say)

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One of the last 3 RAF shows cancelled due to lack of sponsors. Pathetic... if true... :sick:
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Wrexham Mackem on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 1:04 pm

What sponsors? Shropshire Star and the local Co-op? thy surely can't be dependant on those for event funding? publicity and ticket distribution surely. :question:

I hope it isn't true, a sorry state of affairs if so.
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Mutley on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 2:16 pm

Guys

Ive emailed the museum awaiting a reply, will post it when i get one

Hope it aint true tho
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Shaft on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 4:25 pm

Lets hope not!

Still it was cancelled in 2003 if i remember right, think that was down to lack of RAF aircraft at the time.

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Re: 2009 show

Postby NWest on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 5:06 pm

Just to knock this on the head, I've spoken this afternoon (by phone) to the RAF Museum at Cosford and the rumours are untrue.

The person I spoke to said the event is "100% going ahead".
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Mutley on Fri 06 Feb 2009, 5:35 pm

Excellent news, it would be good for the Museum to issue an official statement to quash this rumour for good
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Shaft on Sat 07 Feb 2009, 1:28 am

Yep i can confirm the show is now going ahead i have jsut been booked to attend.

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Re: 2009 show

Postby st24 on Sat 07 Feb 2009, 1:21 pm

Good. I'd hate our one family day out of the year to be cancelled! :grin:
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Re: 2009 show

Postby A380FWWOW on Sat 07 Feb 2009, 2:59 pm

I'm quite pleased that it will be going ahead! However I am wondering what they will do to replace the massive void left by the cancellation of the 2009 RAF Role Demo!
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Re: 2009 show

Postby garethbrum on Sun 08 Feb 2009, 7:37 pm

A380FWWOW wrote:I'm quite pleased that it will be going ahead! However I am wondering what they will do to replace the massive void left by the cancellation of the 2009 RAF Role Demo!


Probably exactly the same as the last two years but with a slightly shorter display!
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Re: 2009 show

Postby PeterR on Sun 08 Feb 2009, 7:49 pm

How about a four-ship flypast of 8 AEF / UBAS Tutors? :grin: :grin:
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Re: 2009 show

Postby st24 on Mon 09 Feb 2009, 10:16 am

Jumbojet380 wrote:How about a four-ship flypast of 8 AEF / UBAS Tutors? :grin: :grin:


In all my years of going to Cosford - and thats a lot, believe me! I can't recall them ever doing this, not with the Tutors, the Vigilants, the Bulldogs or even the beloved Ventures. Probably the only RAF airshow where the home team don't get involved in the flying display and surely, one of the easiest to attain?? :question: Okay, its not quite the "show of force" but it would demonstrate to the public what Cosford is all about.. (Think of all those empty seats for West Mercia's best cadets :wink: )
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Re: 2009 show

Postby garethbrum on Mon 09 Feb 2009, 10:25 am

st24 wrote:
Jumbojet380 wrote:How about a four-ship flypast of 8 AEF / UBAS Tutors? :grin: :grin:


In all my years of going to Cosford - and thats a lot, believe me! I can't recall them ever doing this, not with the Tutors, the Vigilants, the Bulldogs or even the beloved Ventures. Probably the only RAF airshow where the home team don't get involved in the flying display and surely, one of the easiest to attain?? :question: Okay, its not quite the "show of force" but it would demonstrate to the public what Cosford is all about.. (Think of all those empty seats for West Mercia's best cadets :wink: )


I'm sure some of the home team (Vigilants maybe) were buzzing around in the morning last year - before the show started!
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Domvickery on Mon 09 Feb 2009, 11:14 am

If i remember rightly (which usually i'm wrong) didnt they do a 4 ship bulldog display one of the years before they retired them?
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Re: 2009 show

Postby PeterR on Mon 09 Feb 2009, 6:10 pm

The Vigilants were operating as usual on the Sunday morning of the airshow last year.

I will sugget it to the Boss of our AEF about a formation flypast of our Tutor's. It won't be the fastest display but I'm sure the public will like it. :cool:
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Re: 2009 show

Postby MartinNeedham on Mon 09 Feb 2009, 10:02 pm

Shaft wrote:Cosford might not be on now this year


Jumbojet380 wrote::shock:

I hope not though...


NWest wrote:rumours are untrue... event is "100% going ahead".


No more sleepless nights in the Reoch household now then, eh Peter :grin:
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Re: 2009 show

Postby A380FWWOW on Mon 09 Feb 2009, 10:40 pm

MartinNeedham wrote:
No more sleepless nights in the Reoch household now then, eh Peter :grin:


Im sure he will find something else to worry about! :grin:
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Re: 2009 show

Postby Ben Montgomery on Wed 11 Feb 2009, 2:32 pm

Doh! Exam timetable just came through and I have 6 exams in two days after the show :sad:
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