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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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Alanko wrote:Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.

Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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Hampshire Aviation wrote:
Alanko wrote:Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.

Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!


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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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Wissam24 wrote:
Hampshire Aviation wrote:
Alanko wrote:Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.

Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!


Ending a sentence with a preposition; how uncouth...


Two prepositions, indeed! :mad:

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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There to have copies of Fowler thrown at him!
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Latest BBC reports suggest that Airlander may have hit a power cable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-37184864
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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That was actually reported elsewhere yesterday but I haven't seen any confirmation subsequently.
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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pbeardmore wrote:I am a massive fan of "Outback Truckers" and those guys go though hell to get essential supplies into isolated locations. So I can see the potential.



Would an Mi-26 not do the same, without being subject to the same restrictions as an Airship?

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Yes, but it means buying from the Russians, which at the moment is frowned upon in certain quarters. Particularly with a long term support contract.

Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.

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Russ wrote:Yes, but it means buying from the Russians, which at the moment is frowned upon in certain quarters. Particularly with a long term support contract.

Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.


Plus I guess nothing like the same level of endurance?

large, wide/long, loads.


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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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Looking at the damage this looks like it will set the project back a few weeks, but would be a good test of their design ability to build in some more strength to the structure.

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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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Russ wrote:Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.


According to this link :- https://www.hybridairvehicles.com/downl ... der-21.pdf ....the Airlander 10 has a 'payload capacity' of 'up to 10,000kg' - 10 tonnes.

According to Wiki :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26 .... the Mi-26 has an underslung payload of 20,000kg - 20 tonnes.

Plus.... can the Airlander do this ?.........

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Cost also has a bearing on bulky heavylift operations. Rotary lifts are at the top end of costs,consider the small number of moving parts in an Airlander on comparision to a helo or heavylift transport, the airship has a simplicity which cannot be bettered.

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According to the Hybrid Air Vehicles Facebook page, Airlander has been back outside for the last couple of days as the first step towards resuming the flight testing programme. Looks like they buffed out all the dents after their little prang last year.
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qwerty wrote: the airship has a simplicity which cannot be bettered.


Unless its slightly breezy or worse......
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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It was outside on Saturday, saw the top of it from the A428 (?)as we headed home from Lakenheath.

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Airlander has had another incident this morning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-engla ... s-42037832
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Re: Minor incident for Airlander

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Not a "crash" - read the report! It was moored on its mast at the time of the incident. A sad sight in the photo accompanying the article :(

Edit: I see you've edited your post Dan H....
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Even if it is repairable/ the can build a replacement I can't help thinking that this is the end of the line for the Airlander. Not many potential customers are going to want to trust their cargo to something that finishes up in a hedge due to a light breeze.

The whole 'airship for cargo lifting' has been tried many times ( I remember seeing a documentary about a similar venture in 1980ish) but whilst it seems like a good idea on paper/ in simulations it never seems to transfer to actuality and potential customers seem very sceptical and unconvinced.

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Another incident, I see.

That's the Airlander dream finished - can't see many customers placing their trust in this.

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787s on the other hand were absolutely spot on during flight testing. And when in airline service. And even now! Oh wait... :whistle:

The press release states that the aircraft was meant to be ripped open. How true that is is open for discussion!

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Bit of a let down... :whistle:
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hunterxf382 wrote:Edit: I see you've edited your post Dan H....


Yeah on reading my post back afterwards I realised the wording was a bit rash. :up:
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insurance claim of up to £32m is being submitted by the company behind the world's longest aircraft.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-42199281
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Re: Airlander News & Discussion

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helired3 wrote:insurance claim of up to £32m is being submitted by the company behind the world's longest aircraft.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-42199281


I'm guessing this *might* affect next year's premium.

Time to put this project to bed, once and for all. Nice enough idea, until you come to the practical realities.

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I have to say, that I completely agree with that.

They've given it a good go, but at the end of the day the project hasn't exactly set the world alight.

The other thing to note, is that if they are claiming for circa £32million, god know's how much the initial premiums must have been...