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cg_341
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by cg_341 » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 12:15 pm
Alanko wrote: Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.
Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!
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by Wissam24 » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 1:20 pm
Hampshire Aviation wrote: Alanko wrote: Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.
Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!
Ending a sentence with a preposition; how uncouth...
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by Skyflash » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 1:27 pm
Wissam24 wrote: Hampshire Aviation wrote: Alanko wrote: Archaic language makes a change from the usual parlance; Waddo, Tonkas etc.
Indeed, it makes a welcome change from some of the spluff that members oft come out with!
Ending a sentence with a preposition; how uncouth...
Two prepositions, indeed!
To the stocks with him, I say!
Posting comments on an aviation-related chatroom, are ya? Looks like it an' all...
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by Dragon Rapide » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 2:09 pm
There to have copies of Fowler thrown at him!
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by Dragon Rapide » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 2:47 pm
That was actually reported elsewhere yesterday but I haven't seen any confirmation subsequently.
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by TKK 140 » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 3:27 pm
pbeardmore wrote: I am a massive fan of "Outback Truckers" and those guys go though hell to get essential supplies into isolated locations. So I can see the potential.
Would an Mi-26 not do the same, without being subject to the same restrictions as an Airship?
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by Russ » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 3:33 pm
Yes, but it means buying from the Russians, which at the moment is frowned upon in certain quarters. Particularly with a long term support contract. Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.
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by Wissam24 » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 3:35 pm
Russ wrote: Yes, but it means buying from the Russians, which at the moment is frowned upon in certain quarters. Particularly with a long term support contract. Plus the Mi-26 has a very limited payload, potentially compared to the Airlander, particularly regarding large, wide/long, loads.
Plus I guess nothing like the same level of endurance?
large, wide/long, loads.
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by planenuttoo » Thu 25 Aug 2016, 4:56 pm
Looking at the damage this looks like it will set the project back a few weeks, but would be a good test of their design ability to build in some more strength to the structure.
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by qwerty » Sat 27 Aug 2016, 11:41 am
Cost also has a bearing on bulky heavylift operations. Rotary lifts are at the top end of costs,consider the small number of moving parts in an Airlander on comparision to a helo or heavylift transport, the airship has a simplicity which cannot be bettered.
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by DanH » Sun 09 Apr 2017, 5:00 pm
According to the Hybrid Air Vehicles Facebook page, Airlander has been back outside for the last couple of days as the first step towards resuming the flight testing programme. Looks like they buffed out all the dents after their little prang last year.
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by capercaillie » Mon 10 Apr 2017, 10:33 am
qwerty wrote: the airship has a simplicity which cannot be bettered.
Unless its slightly breezy or worse......
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by Joe Spares » Mon 10 Apr 2017, 10:42 am
It was outside on Saturday, saw the top of it from the A428 (?)as we headed home from Lakenheath.
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by DanH » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 11:54 am
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by hunterxf382 » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 11:57 am
Not a "crash" - read the report! It was moored on its mast at the time of the incident. A sad sight in the photo accompanying the article
Edit: I see you've edited your post Dan H....
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by speedbird2639 » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 1:16 pm
Even if it is repairable/ the can build a replacement I can't help thinking that this is the end of the line for the Airlander. Not many potential customers are going to want to trust their cargo to something that finishes up in a hedge due to a light breeze. The whole 'airship for cargo lifting' has been tried many times ( I remember seeing a documentary about a similar venture in 1980ish) but whilst it seems like a good idea on paper/ in simulations it never seems to transfer to actuality and potential customers seem very sceptical and unconvinced.
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by Flare Path » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 2:36 pm
Another incident, I see. That's the Airlander dream finished - can't see many customers placing their trust in this.
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by cg_341 » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 2:58 pm
787s on the other hand were absolutely spot on during flight testing. And when in airline service. And even now! Oh wait...
The press release states that the aircraft was meant to be ripped open. How true that is is open for discussion!
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by Pringles » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 3:13 pm
Bit of a let down...
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by DanH » Sat 18 Nov 2017, 5:03 pm
hunterxf382 wrote: Edit: I see you've edited your post Dan H....
Yeah on reading my post back afterwards I realised the wording was a bit rash.
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by Dan O'Hagan » Mon 04 Dec 2017, 8:40 am
I'm guessing this *might* affect next year's premium.
Time to put this project to bed, once and for all. Nice enough idea, until you come to the practical realities.
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by Talldan76 » Mon 04 Dec 2017, 9:08 pm
I have to say, that I completely agree with that. They've given it a good go, but at the end of the day the project hasn't exactly set the world alight. The other thing to note, is that if they are claiming for circa £32million, god know's how much the initial premiums must have been...