jasonT1981 wrote:Its normal now sadly. Post Shoreham regulations have pushed the display line out further.
RIAT Air Ops wrote:jasonT1981 wrote:Its normal now sadly. Post Shoreham regulations have pushed the display line out further.
Incorrect, there's been no change at all.
Haven't done the Llandudno show and I'm certainly no expert with regard to seaside shows but if you consider a curved bay such as that at Llandudno then there's clearly going to be points at which any display line is nearer than the mandated distances if you take the measurements from the centre.
McG wrote:As far as I know the tide also needs to be taken into account when they are calculating the distance for the display line, which usually results on the display line being calculated based on a low tide.
melvyn hiscock wrote:McG wrote:As far as I know the tide also needs to be taken into account when they are calculating the distance for the display line, which usually results on the display line being calculated based on a low tide.
No, if the crowd line is defined, and there is an exclusion on the beach, the line will not need to be moved.
Tide makes no difference
Mooshie1956 wrote:
Will you please inform Southport then that the tide makes no difference to when they can hold there airshow. Tide is very much a factor in when they can hold there show.
Dan O'Hagan wrote:It really hit home at Headcorn this weekend just how detached the crowd is now from the display flying. Take the example of the Buchón there - superbly flown with topside after topside, but about a mile from the crowd line. There is zero chance of photographing displays properly without a crazy lens and teleconverter, so even with a 500mm lens in my bag I now go with the intention and expectation of only shooting take-off, landing and taxi shots as well as interesting start-up and people pictures. Shuttleworth is now the only venue on the circuit where display photography seems possible. A crying shame what airshows outside of Old Warden have become, and I only hope we can take some satisfaction and solace in the closure of the incident that got us into this situation early next year.
King Cobra wrote:Dan O'Hagan wrote:It really hit home at Headcorn this weekend just how detached the crowd is now from the display flying. Take the example of the Buchón there - superbly flown with topside after topside, but about a mile from the crowd line. There is zero chance of photographing displays properly without a crazy lens and teleconverter, so even with a 500mm lens in my bag I now go with the intention and expectation of only shooting take-off, landing and taxi shots as well as interesting start-up and people pictures. Shuttleworth is now the only venue on the circuit where display photography seems possible. A crying shame what airshows outside of Old Warden have become, and I only hope we can take some satisfaction and solace in the closure of the incident that got us into this situation early next year.
The BBMF Spitfire displayed much closer and on a crop sensor 350mm at most was required for his passes. The closest pass required less than 300mm in facts. Parky’s solo display was next closest and then the Buchon that need a good 500mm or more. Why the difference though?
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