Oh dear..........
I dare say all the 'inclusivity' boxes were ticked off on her job app, but the 'interest in the subject' box went unticked, not that they cared about that.
GeeRam wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 7:36 amYou're ignoring the house building expansion demands in and around the Cambridge area......and the value of turning the 'active' airfield site into a housing estate, especially with its proximity to the M11 junction.
I'm sure there are very good financial reasons that IWM would be happy to see all flying activity end at Duxford and just keep the non-flying museum part of the site.
Perhaps they've already struck a deal with Marshall's to hold it there.....Wrexham Mackem wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 8:14 amIn his radio interview Nick Grey seemed positive, and also stated they didn't want to move far.
The problem with that mid-summer slot and turning it into a generic airshow, is they will be very much competing with RIAT then, instead of being the niche airshow, which was something very different to RIAT.Wrexham Mackem wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 8:14 amGeeRam wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 7:36 amYou're ignoring the house building expansion demands in and around the Cambridge area......and the value of turning the 'active' airfield site into a housing estate, especially with its proximity to the M11 junction.
I'm sure there are very good financial reasons that IWM would be happy to see all flying activity end at Duxford and just keep the non-flying museum part of the site.
There's nothing I've seen in the last few days that suggests that IWM wants to stop airshows. In the case of Legends, far from it, IWM want that mid-summer slot to run their own event to replace it, therefore 'maximising their revenue'.
I can only think of Old Warden too. I presume that they must have a pretty good relationship with TFC, judging by the support given by TFC to the Fly Navy events. Obviuosly a fantastic location, but it would surely have to be a smaller event in terms of spectator numbers, traders and aerial participants. As fantastic as it would be to see 12 or 15 Spitfires launching or 18+ warbirds for the balbo, I just cant see that being practical or safe at Old Warden. The opportunity to operate takeoffs 4 abreast and landings 3 abreast(?) at Duxford, is I think unique and makes it a very time efficient location for such events.GeeRam wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 8:41 amPerhaps they've already struck a deal with Marshall's to hold it there.....Wrexham Mackem wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 8:14 amIn his radio interview Nick Grey seemed positive, and also stated they didn't want to move far.
There aren't exactly a lot of options to 'not move far'.
The only obvious one of course is Old Warden, but would Legends work in the confines of Old Warden, I don't think so?
I hope that TFC can make it work somewhere else.
From my previous post on using Sywell, 30 or so acres of parking that has been used before for other events would hold about 4-5,000 vehicles. Duxford limit post Shoreham was 10,000 vehicles. Visitor numbers for FL were in the 20,000 for each day - you'd need full occupancy on every vehicle to achieve that.LN Strike Eagle wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 9:24 amFrom the likely candidates, I think Sywell seems like a good fit on the face of it - it has both a hard and grass runway, with parking available on hardstands too for the heavier types. There is already a connection to a big figure at Legends with Richard Grace’s fleet of warbirds housed there, and it used to host a biennial airshow anyway, so it has been proven as an event venue. It even has a museum on site! I’m not really sure how capacity would compare to Duxford though.
I think Wyton would be out as its the Magpas Air Ambulance base, so can't see a display be allowed there, plus what the RAF use the new build site for as well, would I think preclude it being allowed for a major pubic access event.SuffolkBlue wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 10:23 amI know there were plans for it to be a site for car storage back in 2018, but if these haven't materialized (or if there is still room on site if they have), could RAF Wyton be a feasible option? It would still keep the airshow in the Cambridgeshire area and it has relatively close rail links at Huntingdon and road links from the A14. The close proximity of the A141 could be stumbling block though, unless the display line could be shifted east.
Lot's of ifs and buts.....
I certainley wouldn't blame TFC for starting to look elsewhere for a base, if they haven't started already, perhaps expecting this attitude from IWM. I would think though the deciding factor will be their skilled staff. I presume most, if not all, live in reasonable commute distance from Duxford?DOUGHNUT wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020, 5:19 pmWhere the Flying Legends show takes place I expect will be dictated more by where home base is going to be in a few years time. Not suggesting that TFC will more away from Duxford entirely but some aircraft might not be seen in the hangar at Duxford all the time ?
Unlike the September show, Flying Legends rarely (if ever) was a complete sell-out (although it always attracted a good crowd)catwomanofkent wrote:The tickets were always sold out, thousands of public coming in.
Not true. Tickets for all major Duxford airshows (including Flying Legends) have been advance purchase only for several years (although you could still buy them online the night before - see above)catwomanofkent wrote:People could also 'turn up' on the day and still pay for tickets (unlike the other two shows where u needed to pre buy tickets).