RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby frank on Sat 24 Aug 2019, 3:35 pm

Given that we are now seeing the Viggen and Draken at various airshows in the UK, my wish would be for these two beauties for next year. Its not an unreasonable wish - the only stumbling block might be the willingness of RIAT to pay for them.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby CJS on Sun 25 Aug 2019, 6:34 am

We're seeing them at various seaside shows, isn't that the stumbling block?
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Tommy on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 1:33 pm

Italy are very shy with their AMX, but any or all of the below would be pretty 4-toast:

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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 1:57 pm

I think they need some of the major acts like those at this weekend's Sanicole & Kleine-Brogel airshows.......


Team Raven
The Fireflys
Otto the Helicopter



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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby MiG_Eater on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 2:16 pm

I'm sure these shows will be criticised in the same terms as RIAT is Brevet... or... maybe not...

Also those AMXs look great.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Airshowhammer on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 8:24 pm

MiG_Eater wrote:I'm sure these shows will be criticised in the same terms as RIAT is Brevet... or... maybe not...


Well no.

They don't claim to be the 'World largest military airshow' :dunno:
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Brevet Cable on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 9:04 pm

Neither does RIAT these days...… :whistle:

And I'll admit that the list I posted was in the hope of attracting the pavlovian "They shouldn't be at RIAT" posters who miss the fact that the seaside shows they believe those acts should be restricted to tend to have display lines the same distance ( or even further away ) from the crowd and often have longer crowdlines than at Fairford.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby jason82wells on Sat 14 Sep 2019, 6:35 am

CJS wrote:We're seeing them at various seaside shows, isn't that the stumbling block?


See below from Southport thread, seems money isn't the stumbling block

chrisward123 wrote:Went Airside to Blackpool Airport on Sunday - very enjoyable day.
Got to sit in most of the aircraft, will post pictures later.

Regarding the Swedes - spoke to the team yesterday, what a nice bunch.
Sat in the Viggen, Tunnan and there support Citation as well as getting a free cap, patch and sticker.
They stated they had to remain high and far from the crowd which they didn't enjoy, they were not allowed to start display in formation and they were only permitted to use A/B on Y axis while exiting manoeuvre.
They also confirmed they got offered to chance to display at RIAT this year but they refused due to the fact they were only permitted to conduct straight, high flypasts - which is there own words is not there style.


My take is that if they're gaining popularity elsewhere in the UK then keep them away from RIAT, there's enough samey content already.

It was nice to see the Viggen again last weekend in blue skies after (for me) a gap of 15+ years, but the display was high and distant. It certainly didn't live up to expectations. Another reason for them to stay away.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Roger_Over on Sat 14 Sep 2019, 7:56 am

I’ve seen eight individual SwAFHF displays this year (not intentionally it just worked out that way) inc the two seater Viggen three times and have to say the Southport display was the least impressive of all of them, on a good day though when the pilots are allowed to show off the aircraft’s capabilities I’d rank it one of the better displays I’ve seen anywhere this year.

I think a Viggen or Draken pairs display would work well at RIAT but I’d definitely agree if they won’t allow a full dynamic display it isn’t worth bothering.

I’d also agree RIAT has to be different to justify the price we pay and if not for the MiG and to a lesser extent the Harriers and Flanker I wouldn’t have gone this year. Next year if they get something loud and interesting with green wheels they’ll get my money again.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Skyflash on Sat 14 Sep 2019, 8:39 am

Brevet Cable wrote:Neither does RIAT these days...… :whistle:

And I'll admit that the list I posted was in the hope of attracting the pavlovian "They shouldn't be at RIAT" posters who miss the fact that the seaside shows they believe those acts should be restricted to tend to have display lines the same distance ( or even further away ) from the crowd and often have longer crowdlines than at Fairford.
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I have to admit, I really didn’t understand the point of your post. Although I’m familiar enough with your ‘style’ to know that you were almost certainly on a fishing expedition... :grin:

Anyway and as I’m sure you’re perfectly aware, at least two of the acts you named were specifically for the Sanicole night-show, at which they work extremely well. Quite how this relates to RIAT, either positively or negatively, is beyond me.

And if you’ve never been, Sanicole is a delightful event, with the added bonus of a spotter’s day at KB to let you see the aircraft up close. Wish I was there this weekend...
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Brevet Cable on Sat 14 Sep 2019, 12:42 pm

Damn...I'll have to try and make it less obvious in future! :lol:
Not for many years, but yes, I've done Sanicole several times back in the '80s, along with various other airshows & 'open days' at other airfields/bases ( it was a case of "what's going on in the area" when I was over there at the time )
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby salt25 on Tue 17 Sep 2019, 7:30 pm

A10
Phantom F4
Black hawk heli
Saab Viggen
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Airshowhammer on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 10:08 am

Shuttle bus to departure day.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby sunwing on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 10:47 am

my list A4 SKYHAWK please!!!
JASDF anything
Ukranian SU24 WITH THE SU27s
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby jasonT1981 on Mon 30 Sep 2019, 1:58 am

A C5 Galaxy would be great on static, I've never seen one.

Harriers again please :)
Frecce Tricolori
Patrouille de France
Patrouille Suisse
Black Eagles
Saudi Hawks
Patrulla Aguila
Damn, I really like display teams, don't I? lol.

Italian Tornado (if displaying)
B1 Flypast (Or B-52)
USAF A10
USAF/RAF F35
Couteau Delta
Finish F-18
French Rafale
F86 Sabre (new one operating in France)
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby edhunter on Fri 18 Oct 2019, 4:12 pm

Does anyone think that there is any chance of the US navy super hornet ever making a return to these shores for RIAT?
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Stagger2 on Sat 19 Oct 2019, 12:37 am

Not unless the Swiss Air Force are politically driven to a semi-final 'shoot-out' for their Legacy Hornet replacement? :dunno:
(After the F-18 'cracks' causing the premature cessation of Axalp, maybe sooner than later!) :whistle:
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby parsley on Sun 20 Oct 2019, 12:52 pm

edhunter wrote:Does anyone think that there is any chance of the US navy super hornet ever making a return to these shores for RIAT?


Well it is Farnborough next year so it's a possibility.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Luigi on Mon 21 Oct 2019, 10:35 am

good morning!
did we already begin the Swedish historic flight saga again? :ninja:
If not: I want to see the Viggen!


just booked 2 places at the aviation club.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Tom105 on Thu 24 Oct 2019, 6:51 pm

My wish list -
C-5 Galaxy - never seen one would love on static
A-10 - only ever seen at RIAT 2015 on static a flying one would be welcome!
Black eagles - never seen them look brilliant
Wings of Storm
Al Fusan
Blue Angels
Swedish Historic flight - would take then on static or flying be nice to photograph them especially the J29 and J32
Japanese F-2, T-4, P1 would be nice again, as this is a wish list ShinMaywa US-2
Would love a JF-17 from Pakistan
MI-26 Halo
Also a SU-22 never seen one
Not much I want to see then! :biggrin:
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Go4Long on Wed 06 Nov 2019, 5:40 pm

The blues schedule for next year is already released. Not that it can’t change, but they’re already flying all 6 weekends before air tattoo at the moment.

And I’ve always thought that there’s just no way for them to change their show enough to fit the UK regs...they overfly the crowd a LOT during their show...and their sneak pass breaks every reg that applies to it.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby verreli on Wed 06 Nov 2019, 6:55 pm

More of a fantasy list than wish list but here goes... all flying...

B-1
U-2
F-18F Superbug
UK F-35B (lightning marked)
Qatari Rafale
Slovakian Mig-29
JF-17
August 1st (J-10)
Turkish Stars (F-5)

Red Arrows / August 1st joint formation
If Italians send similar numbers as last year, all Italian aircraft in formation.
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby capercaillie on Thu 07 Nov 2019, 9:07 am

verreli wrote:More of a fantasy list than wish list but here goes... all flying...

UK F-35B (lightning marked)


Your idea of a fantasy is disturbing. :sick: :grin:
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby verreli on Thu 07 Nov 2019, 12:29 pm

capercaillie wrote:
verreli wrote:More of a fantasy list than wish list but here goes... all flying...

UK F-35B (lightning marked)


Your idea of a fantasy is disturbing. :sick: :grin:


You just know they'll send a plain one!
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Re: RIAT 2020 Wishlist

Postby Stagger2 on Thu 07 Nov 2019, 12:31 pm

verreli wrote:More of a fantasy list than wish list but here goes... all flying...

B-1
U-2
F-18F Superbug
UK F-35B (lightning marked)
Qatari Rafale
Slovakian Mig-29
JF-17
August 1st (J-10)
Turkish Stars (F-5)

Red Arrows / August 1st joint formation
If Italians send similar numbers as last year, all Italian aircraft in formation.

I'm fairly sure that right now the whole USAF would like to see a B1 flying! :whistle:
PS:- U2's fly most weeks at Fairford just now. Go visit & avoid the Crowds!
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