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stu_h wrote:In the above context, opening the show may simply mean being the first display act on the Friday, rather than all three days?


Good point, being the first display on the Friday would make more sense due to the later start so perhaps the show will open with the F-35B/Typhoon/Red Arrows flypast then move into the C-130 demo then end with its solo display.

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Andyperkins wrote:
mafro987daboss wrote:
Airshowhammer wrote:Praying on the Sunday that no stars open the show, as the first train from Paddington is at 8:27!
Hoping a few Helicopters and the Breitling Wing Walkers.
Reason being on the Sunday i'll have a very impatient 9 year old nephew who won't want to miss any jets! :grin: :sweat:


An F16 and one of the Typhoons are guaranteed to be on in the first hour. They've always opened with 2/3 fast jets in recent years.


Better hope it's not the F-35 demo opening the show like one report suggested.


Morning all, I'm not going to get into the detail with regard to the display programme as there's still much to do but just wished to clear this one up and the answer is no the F-35 demo will not be opening.

Cheers, Tom :cuppa:

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If you go down to Fairford on Monday evening you may get a couple of shocking photos...... :heyhey: :biggrin:

G0216/16 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION
TR:6000N 03000W 6000N 02000W BALIX
THE FOLLOWING SEPARATION WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS 60NM, NON-MNPS 120NM. FL250 - FL270, 27 JUN 15:32 2016 UNTIL 27 JUN 18:55
2016. CREATED: 24 JUN 09:54 2016

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boff180 wrote:If you go down to Fairford on Monday evening you may get a couple of shocking photos...... :heyhey: :biggrin:

G0216/16 - AIRSPACE RESERVATION
TR:6000N 03000W 6000N 02000W BALIX
THE FOLLOWING SEPARATION WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN OCEANIC AIRSPACE:
MNPS 60NM, NON-MNPS 120NM. FL250 - FL270, 27 JUN 15:32 2016 UNTIL 27 JUN 18:55
2016. CREATED: 24 JUN 09:54 2016


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Tom, is there any significance as to why the Lithuanians have changed from confirmed to ongoing and dropped down the list on the confirmed aircraft page?
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Skyflash wrote:F-35s?


That's the word on the street, I haven't heard or seen reported whether this is the USAF or USMC/RAF contingent or both at the moment though.

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boff180 wrote:
Skyflash wrote:F-35s?


That's the word on the street, I haven't heard or seen reported whether this is the USAF or USMC/RAF contingent or both at the moment though.


Only info I had from someone who is involved with RIAT is six due in that day, cannot personally verify the accuracy of that. :smile:
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Just dropped into my inbox:

Friday's flying display starts at 11am and finished at around 3pm and includes:
• RAF Typhoon
• F-35 Display
• F-22 Display
• Red Arrows Display
• Red Arrows, F-35 and 2 x Typhoon Flypast
• USAF F-35A, F-22 and Mustang Heritage Flight Flypast
• USAF Osprey
• Belgian F-16
• Airbus Defence and Space A400M
• Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - Spitfire and Hurricane
• Dutch Apache
• Turkish F-16
• RAMEX Delta
• Royal Navy Black Cats
• Civilian BAE Strikemaster (Friday only)
• US Marine Corps Hercules and F-35B Refuelling Demonstration (Friday only)

None to shabby, I would say.

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Airshowhammer wrote:
mafro987daboss wrote:
Andyperkins wrote:
mafro987daboss wrote:
Airshowhammer wrote:Praying on the Sunday that no stars open the show, as the first train from Paddington is at 8:27!
Hoping a few Helicopters and the Breitling Wing Walkers.
Reason being on the Sunday i'll have a very impatient 9 year old nephew who won't want to miss any jets! :grin: :sweat:


An F16 and one of the Typhoons are guaranteed to be on in the first hour. They've always opened with 2/3 fast jets in recent years.


Better hope it's not the F-35 demo opening the show like one report suggested.


What report was that?!


If true, wouldn't that mean the Raptor would be on roughly the same time to take part in the heritage flight? Hope its not true, would be ridiculous :ghost:


Is it safe to assume the Heritage flight will take place around lunchtime, to fit in with the Legends appearance? Cant see them launching twice.

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pb643 wrote:Just dropped into my inbox:

Friday's flying display starts at 11am and finished at around 3pm and includes:
• RAF Typhoon
• F-35 Display
• F-22 Display
• Red Arrows Display
• Red Arrows, F-35 and 2 x Typhoon Flypast
• USAF F-35A, F-22 and Mustang Heritage Flight Flypast
• USAF Osprey
• Belgian F-16
• Airbus Defence and Space A400M
• Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - Spitfire and Hurricane
• Dutch Apache
• Turkish F-16
• RAMEX Delta
• Royal Navy Black Cats
• Civilian BAE Strikemaster (Friday only)
• US Marine Corps Hercules and F-35B Refuelling Demonstration (Friday only)

None to shabby, I would say.


Not bad at all, don't yet have Friday tickets but if they are still available Thursday evening and the forecast looks good I think I will make the trip.

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capercaillie wrote:Tom, is there any significance as to why the Lithuanians have changed from confirmed to ongoing and dropped down the list on the confirmed aircraft page?


Paul, yup - gremlins! Should now be sorted thanks to our chums in marketing. :up:

Loving the weather today :cool:

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RIAT Air Ops wrote:
capercaillie wrote:Tom, is there any significance as to why the Lithuanians have changed from confirmed to ongoing and dropped down the list on the confirmed aircraft page?


Paul, yup - gremlins! Should now be sorted thanks to our chums in marketing. :up:

Loving the weather today :cool:


thanks Tom, appreciated. :up:
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pb643 wrote:Just dropped into my inbox:

Friday's flying display starts at 11am and finished at around 3pm and includes:
• RAF Typhoon
• F-35 Display
• F-22 Display
• Red Arrows Display
• Red Arrows, F-35 and 2 x Typhoon Flypast
• USAF F-35A, F-22 and Mustang Heritage Flight Flypast
• USAF Osprey
• Belgian F-16
• Airbus Defence and Space A400M
• Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - Spitfire and Hurricane
• Dutch Apache
• Turkish F-16
• RAMEX Delta
• Royal Navy Black Cats
• Civilian BAE Strikemaster (Friday only)
• US Marine Corps Hercules and F-35B Refuelling Demonstration (Friday only)

None to shabby, I would say.


looks good especially once you add in arrivals and validations :clap:

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Won't most arrivals already be in on Weds - Thursday?

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Rampvan wrote:looks good especially once you add in arrivals and validations :clap:

As posted by Tom ( Riat Air Ops ) previously in another topic :
I'm trying to manage some expectation and give you the message that validation flying will not take place with public/FRIAT on the Showground area including the FRIAT grandstand.
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Brevet Cable wrote:
Rampvan wrote:looks good especially once you add in arrivals and validations :clap:

As posted by Tom ( RIAT Air Ops ) previously in another topic :
I'm trying to manage some expectation and give you the message that validation flying will not take place with public/FRIAT on the Showground area including the FRIAT grandstand.


Is it different from
Last year then?

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Brevet Cable wrote:
Rampvan wrote:looks good especially once you add in arrivals and validations :clap:

As posted by Tom ( RIAT Air Ops ) previously in another topic :
I'm trying to manage some expectation and give you the message that validation flying will not take place with public/FRIAT on the Showground area including the FRIAT grandstand.


I will go with the commentator who repeatedly mentioned validations last year on the Friday :icecream:

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Nope.
As per the argument/discussion in another topic they didn't do any validations on the Friday last year.
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Brevet Cable wrote:Nope.
As per the argument/discussion in another topic they didn't do any validations on the Friday last year.


Thats what you say...... The commentator tended to disagree though ! And like i said, im going with the guy employed by RIAT to tell joe public what was going on !

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I think what happens is better described as rehearsals than validations.

During the years I attended arrivals it was also described as such in the sheet of lies.
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Brevet Cable wrote:
Rampvan wrote:looks good especially once you add in arrivals and validations :clap:

As posted by Tom ( RIAT Air Ops ) previously in another topic :
I'm trying to manage some expectation and give you the message that validation flying will not take place with public/FRIAT on the Showground area including the FRIAT grandstand.


I assume Park & View East will remain open from early-on, before the Friday show? It was last year (and the year before I think). Friday last year; I parked my car, strolled down and entered that P&V area for a couple of hours then walked back to the Red Entrance around 10.30am to avoid the queues. It was generally quiet with regards to movements but there were a few arrivals.

I seem to recall two Polish MiG-29 displays on the Friday last year - I assume the first in very light drizzle [before the mini show] was a 'practice' and not a validation.

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Rampvan wrote:Thats what you say...... The commentator tended to disagree though ! And like i said, im going with the guy employed by RIAT to tell joe public what was going on !

Nope....that's what Tom & others say.
And unless I'm mistaken , weren't you involved in that discussion in the other topic ?
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paulb1973 wrote:I assume Park & View East will remain open from early-on, before the Friday show

If you go by the RIAT website , that there's no P&V on the Friday :
The two Park and View enclosures (East and West) are open from 7.30am Wednesday 6 July and Thursday 7 July inclusive, and again on Monday 11 July.
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jingernut wrote:Won't most arrivals already be in on Weds - Thursday?


Most yes, not all though. Quite a few before the display kicked off - RAF fast jets, KDC-10, Irish CASA, etc and then quite a few after, USAF MC-130, Belgian NH90, RAF Sentry, Puma, Hercules etc. Probably as many as 30 arrivals on Friday last year.
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Brevet Cable wrote:
Rampvan wrote:looks good especially once you add in arrivals and validations :clap:

As posted by Tom ( RIAT Air Ops ) previously in another topic :
I'm trying to manage some expectation and give you the message that validation flying will not take place with public/FRIAT on the Showground area including the FRIAT grandstand.

I'm assuming any aircraft that need to validate would happen on the Wednesday as we will only be in P+V which from previous experience means we aren't on the airfield.

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