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RAF4EVER wrote:A good flying display,and a good static park. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:what else do you want want at an airshow


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digi camo F18Es in static would be great :smile:

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Would be nice to see an Italian Atlantic. I believe the Italians have started to take delivery of the P-72s so there can't be much longer left for the Br1150s.

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This will be my first visit to RIAT in 2017, only thing I hope to see is a Tornado flying, not seen one flying since 2000 :/

However, would also hope to see the Thunderbirds, F15, F35, F22 and the Spanish Harrier

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4 out of 6 would be my guess :-)
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DeanW wrote:Would be nice to see an Italian Atlantic. I believe the Italians have started to take delivery of the P-72s so there can't be much longer left for the Br1150s.

Quite correct. Perhaps (although unlikely) the AMI could be persuaded to show off their latest Gufstream based machines.

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Glad to hear of the US focus for 2017: perhaps a good precursor to the 75th in 5 years time? :grin:

Would be great to see a real effort to get a lineup of all achievable/available types currently serving with the USAF at the show in some form with a similar story on the historical front. It would be especially nice to see some of the excellent airworthy gems in Europe (T-33, B-25, F-104 :wink:) utilised alongside these. Think a smaller American-focussed Century of Flight? Here's hoping for strong support from across the board. :up:

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A proper 90's Bone display, thats all i'm hoping for. Anything else is a bonus, Not counting my chickens though.

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Airshowhammer wrote:A proper 90's Bone display, thats all i'm hoping for. Anything else is a bonus, Not counting my chickens though.


Or a 2000's bone display when it was rolled at Cottesmore
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rdchawk wrote:
Airshowhammer wrote:A proper 90's Bone display, thats all i'm hoping for. Anything else is a bonus, Not counting my chickens though.


Or a 2000's bone display when it was rolled at Cottesmore
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While it is no longer military, I would love to see 'Sally B' display next year. Played a massive part in USAF history.

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Pretty much a given I would have thought.

IIRC the Lancer was barrel rolled in 2007 at RIAT too wasn't it? At the end of its display. :-o
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If the Ukrainian 27 is properly back on the circuit then obviously I'd love to see it at RIAT.

Also the Romanian MiG-21, although it never seems to travel terribly far.
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Skyflash wrote:If the Ukrainian 27 is properly back on the circuit then obviously I'd love to see it at RIAT.

Absolutely. Outside of some of the potential juicy USAF stuff, the Ukrainian Flanker display has to be top of the list. Surely shows like Malta and the one in Denmark (can't remember the name) this year aren't paying thousands to book it (unlike the static appearance at RIAT 2011)? Maybe as UK forces have done done training exercises in the Ukraine recently could help? :dunno:

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jasonT1981 wrote:While it is no longer military, I would love to see 'Sally B' display next year. Played a massive part in USAF history.


Not really. As the USAF only formed in 1947, the B-17 was being extensively withdrawn immediately after WWII and so its roles from then on were very secondary such as air sea rescue, VIP hacks and drones.

It played a massive part in USAAF history, but that's not what the anniversary is celebrating. :smile:

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How about that very nice F-104 that made a return to flight today?!?!

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vulcan57 wrote:How about that very nice F-104 that made a return to flight today?!?!


CAA :sad:


Love to see it though!

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Have we actually had any official clarification that the CAA would have an issue with the aircraft flying to/at shows in the UK?

- They have allowed afterburning jets like the Viggen & Draken to perform on a number of occasions (hindrance being a DA issue rather than a technical one)
- Other historic Norwegian jets (MiG-15, Vampires, CT-133 - what happened to that by the way?) have all flown at UK air displays recently
- The pilot who flew the aircraft today is thought to hold a CAA DA, having flown a Spitfire a couple of weeks back in the Duxford finale
- Despite the type presently being grounded, they recently allowed a civil-maintained, formerly G-reg Hunter to fly in UK airspace on delivery to Jordan
- Although they failed to certify the British example, the French-registered FW-190 was entitled to display at Legends 2009

Still by no means a guarantee, but quietly optimistic. Think the major limiting factor will be cost somehow...

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Those saying the CAA won't allow it are jumping to conclusions and guessing.

The pilot has displayed in the U.K. this year so must either hold a UK DA or the Norwegian DA is deemed acceptable to the CAA.

As Joe says the only reason we haven't seen the Swedish this year is that the CAA won't recognise the Swedish DA as being valid and the pilots don't hold UK DA's. It has nothing to do with the aircraft.

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WG655 wrote:CT-133 - what happened to that by the way?

The pilot has been tied up in the Norwegian F35 program so hasn't been able to display the aircraft.

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boff180 wrote:Those saying the CAA won't allow it are jumping to conclusions and guessing.

The pilot has displayed in the U.K. this year so must either hold a UK DA or the Norwegian DA is deemed acceptable to the CAA.

As Joe says the only reason we haven't seen the Swedish this year is that the CAA won't recognise the Swedish DA as being valid and the pilots don't hold UK DA's. It has nothing to do with the aircraft.


But they did appear at Jersey Andy .........

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Does the CAA hold the same jurisdiction over the Channel Islands as it does over the UK mainland?
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How many times does this conversation need to be repeated?

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boff180 wrote:Those saying the CAA won't allow it are jumping to conclusions and guessing.

The pilot has displayed in the U.K. this year so must either hold a UK DA or the Norwegian DA is deemed acceptable to the CAA.

As Joe says the only reason we haven't seen the Swedish this year is that the CAA won't recognise the Swedish DA as being valid and the pilots don't hold UK DA's. It has nothing to do with the aircraft.


But they did appear at Jersey Andy .........


But the CAA don't have authority in Jersey :-)

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Now I know how sensitive mods are here - deleting a harmless but mildly provocative post in response to a rather petulant reminder...... :roll:
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