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Strong chance it’ll be the standard BoB celebration that rolls around every 5 years. Not that that’s a bad thing, but note the contrast of how the RAF emotionally recall “the few” following a pretty milksop commemoration of D-Day’s 75th this year.

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Wissam24 wrote:100th Anniversary fo de Havilland, for what it's worth.


This! I can think of three aircraft in North America that should attend (80th anniversary of their first flight) - plus Vamps from Norway of course.

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80th of BoB, 100th of de Havilland, and maybe a little mention of 70th anniversary of Korea?

Think about it,

- 80th of BoB would produce a hopefully similar response to those seen in 2015,
- 100th of de Havillland would hopefully get some gems in the flying and static,
- 70th of Korea would hopefully bring the MiG-15 and Vamps from Norway, F-86 Sabre and the Sea Fury for example? Now that would be something.

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VE Day 75th
VJ Day 75th
75th Anniversary of dawn of the Nuclear age.... (strategic bomber meet :wink: )
Gulf War 1 30th

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50 years of Boeing 747 in service :heyhey:

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boff180 wrote:VE Day 75th
VJ Day 75th
75th Anniversary of dawn of the Nuclear age.... (strategic bomber meet :wink: )
Gulf War 1 30th


Love the idea of GW 30th, but you can probably guarantee that will never be celebrated by the lefties :biggrin: or the RAF bigwigs.
Also, no Jags, Bucs, Tonkas, Victors, Vc10's, etc to participate.
Mind you the USAF could put on that side of the show all on their own if you drag in the Collins F-4 as well i suppose, and the 117 comes over too. Although, alas, no Starlifter, but otherwise it could be quite a showing.

Not sure the D.H. anniversary would hold the attention or the static unless the (whisper it) Sea Vixen, got going again. Especially with Nimrod gone. Maybe one for Duxford or Shuttleworth?

Atomic could be a good theme.... B1, B52, B2, B29 mmmmm to see those lined up in static.
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Never mind static, to see them in the air would just be incredible.
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How about the 30th anniversary of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Invite Iraqi and Kuwaiti air arms.

Combine this with the 30th anniversary of Desert Shield.

Allowing for the 30th anniversary of Desert Storm in 2021. Where all Coalition Forces send at least one aircraft.

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Can't say I think the beginning of the age of nuclear weapons is something worth celebrating.
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Wissam24 wrote:Can't say I think the beginning of the age of nuclear weapons is something worth celebrating.


!!!

At the very least, it would lend an interesting irony to any Japanese participation at the show...
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Ewart wrote:How about the 30th anniversary of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Invite Iraqi and Kuwaiti air arms.

Combine this with the 30th anniversary of Desert Shield.

Allowing for the 30th anniversary of Desert Storm in 2021. Where all Coalition Forces send at least one aircraft.


All you would get though are the same types that attend the airshow nowadays. So there wouldn't be anything that special IMHO.

No to the nuclear aspect too. Or VJ or VE Day; what would that look like to other nations?

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I've got a radical thought: we don't always need to be commemorating X or Y anniversary. Stop living in the past and focus on modern military events and aspects.
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Yep! 'Tiger Meet', 'Fighter Meet', 'Sea Search', 'SkyTanker' etc. are all themes RIAT has had great success wtih before.

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Particularly with a date like 2020
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MiG_Eater wrote:Yep! 'Tiger Meet', 'Fighter Meet', 'Sea Search', 'SkyTanker' etc. are all themes RIAT has had great success wtih before.


Tiger Meet isn't as big as it was, though. Plus, a few of the aircraft from Tiger Meet turn up at RIAT every year, so that would just be a sort of "that's nice", and that's it.

Good point raised with Sky Tanker however; would certainly fill up the static, plus there are some very nice examples out now (A330 MRTT/KC-30, KC-46, KC-767 etc).

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JackyRIATWilson wrote:
MiG_Eater wrote:Yep! 'Tiger Meet', 'Fighter Meet', 'Sea Search', 'SkyTanker' etc. are all themes RIAT has had great success wtih before.


Tiger Meet isn't as big as it was, though. Plus, a few of the aircraft from Tiger Meet turn up at RIAT every year, so that would just be a sort of "that's nice", and that's it.



There was only the one aircraft at RIAT from this year's Tiger Meet - the Immelmann Tornado.

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JackyRIATWilson wrote:Good point raised with Sky Tanker however; would certainly fill up the static.

The static was FULL this year. So full there wasn't space for the Turkish KC-135. Adding more tankers isn't necessarily a good idea...

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It wouldn't have taken much creativity to fit a few more tankers in the static park... don't forget RIAT once played host to about twice the number of aircraft seen this year - and that was with on-site parking!

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Spotty_Jag wrote:
JackyRIATWilson wrote:Good point raised with Sky Tanker however; would certainly fill up the static.

The static was FULL this year. So full there wasn't space for the Turkish KC-135. Adding more tankers isn't necessarily a good idea...


The static was what? Did you say "FULL" - you have to be joking! :lmao:

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Spotty_Jag wrote:
JackyRIATWilson wrote:Good point raised with Sky Tanker however; would certainly fill up the static.

The static was FULL this year. So full there wasn't space for the Turkish KC-135. Adding more tankers isn't necessarily a good idea...

My understanding was that the Turkish KC-135 wasn't over in the static park because it was offered too late and that they could not rearrange the layout and get it past the stalls etc. The south side of the airfield certainly didn't feel FULL of aircraft to me. Far from it.

The biggest problem with any theme now is that there is so little available and so little variation of types fulfilling any particular role that it is a struggle for a theme to really stand out among the rest of the static. This years space theme felt like the final nail in the coffin of Air Tattoo themes to me.

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Static display at Fairford in 1993, with room for more :-

AIRCRAFT IN THE STATIC DISPLAYS ON THE SOUTH (PUBLIC) SIDE
OF THE AIRFIELD:

Royal Air Force
Andover E3 XS605 115 Sqn
Buccaneer S2B XV359 12 Sqn
Buccaneer S2B XV867 208 Sqn
Bulldog T1 XX620 (C) Yorkshire UAS
Canberra PR9 XH131 (AF) 39(1 PRU) Sqn
Canberra T17 WK111 (EA) 360 Sqn
Chinook HC1 ZD982 (BI) 18 Sqn
Chipmunk T10 WP805 (D) 6AEF
Dominie T1 XS736 (S) 6 FTS
Gazelle HT3 ZB625 (N) 2 FTS
Gazelle HT3 ZB627 (A) 7 Sqn
Harrier GR7 ZD431 (02) 1 Sqn
Harrier GR7 ZD438 (03) 1 Sqn
Harrier GR7 ZG471 (AB) 3 Sqn
Harrier GR7 ZG533 (CF) 4 Sqn
Harrier GR7 ZD472 (01) RAFEF (replica)
Harrier T4 XW269 (BD) SA0EU
Harrier T4A ZD990 (Q) HOCU/20(R) Sqn
Hawk T1 XX312 (CF) 100 Sqn
Hawk T1 XX232 6 FTS
Hawk T1A XX263 7 FTS/19(R) Sqn
Hawk T1A XX286 (DK) 4 FTS/234(R) Sqn
Hawk T1A XX350 (TC) 4 FTS/74(R)Sqn
Hawk T1A XX335 (I) 7 FTS/92(R) Sqn
Hawk T1A XX263 RAFEF (replica)
Hercules C1P XV21O LTW
HS125CC1 XW790 32 Sqn
Jaguar GR1A XZ357 (FK) 41 Sqn
Jaguar GR1A XZ111 (GO) 54 Sqn
Jaguar T2A XX841 (ES) 6 Sqn
Jet Provost T5B XW429 (C) 6 FTS/LLADTS
Jetstream T1 XX494 (B) 45(R) Sqn
Nimrod MR2P XV248 Kinloss Wing
Puma HC1 XW198 230 Sqn
Puma HC1 XW200 240 0CU
Sea King HAR3 XZ598 SKTU
Sentry AEW1 ZH1O7 8 Sqn
Spitfire LFXVIe X4474 (QV-I) RAFEF (really TE3II)
Tornado F3 ZE887 (DJ) 11 Sqn
Tornado F3 ZE835 (HK) 111 Sqn
Tornado F3 ZE2O1 (ED) 23 Sqn
Tornado F3 ZE203 (Fl) 25 Sqn
Tornado F3 ZG734 (BA) 29 Sqn
Tornado F3 ZH554 (GJ) 43 Sqn
Tornado F3 ZG731 (CG) 5 Sqn
Tornado F3 7E253 (AC) F3 OCU/56(R) Sqn
Tornado GR1 ZA41O (BZ) 14 Sqn
Tornado GR1 ZG769 (AY) 9 Sqn
Tornado GR1A ZG709 (I) 13 Sqn
Tornado GR1A ZA370 (A) 2 Sqn
Tornado GR1A ZE116 (DG) 31 Sqn
Tristar KC1 ZD952 216 Sqn
Tucano T1 ZF145 1 FTS
Tucano T1 ZF409 3 FTS
Tucano T1 ZF405 6 FTS
VC-10 K2 ZA141 (B) 101 Sqn
Victor K2 XL164 55 Sqn
Wessex HC2 XV722 (WH) 2 FTS
Wessex HC2 XR588 SARTU
Wessex HC2 XR529 (E) 72 Sqn

Royal Navy
Jetstream T2 XX478 (564/CU) 750 NAS
Lynx HAS3 XZ245 (352/SD) 815 NAS
Sea Harrier FRS1 ZE698 (716) 899 NAS
Sea King AEW2A XV707 (181/CU) 849 NAS
Sea King HAS6 XV706 (05/CU) 810 NAS

Army Air Corps
Gazelle AH1 XZ329 670 Sqn Silver Eagles

Ministry of Defence (Procurement Executive)
Canberra B6(Mod) WK163 DRA Bedford
Comet 4C XS235 A&AEE
Harvard lB KF183 A&AEE
Hawk T1 XX342 ETPS
Hercules W2 XV208 DRA (MRF) Farnborough
Hunter FGA9 XE6O1 A&AEE
Jaguar T2 XX830 ETPS
Lynx AH7 ZD560 ETPS
Lynx HAS8 XZ236 A&AEE D Sqn
Scout AH1 XP849 ETPS
Tornado F2T ZD902 DRA Farnborough

Royal Australian Air Force
C-130E Hercules A97-178 37 Sqn

Belgian Air Force
Alpha Jet AT-12 9 Wing/11 Sm
Mirage 5BD BD-09 42 Sm
Sial SF.260MB ST-44 EPE

Brazilian Air Force
Boeing KC-137 2403 20/20 GT

Canadian Armed Forces
CP-l40 Aurora 140109 405 Sqn
KCC-130T Hercules 130338 435(T) Sqn

Czech Air Force
An-12BP Cub 2105 (4342105) 1 SMDLP
Su-22M-4K Fitter 4006 (40306) 20 SBOLP (NA-2B)

Royal Danish Air Force
C-130H Hercules B-678 Esk 721
F-16A Fighting Falcon E-608 Esk 723
F-16B Fighting Falcon ET-197 Esk 726
Sk-35XD Draken AT-160 Esk 729
T-17 Supporter T-401 SNFALB (Aalborg Stn FIt)
T-17 Supporter T-415 FLSK
Sikorsky S-61A U-278 Esk 722

Royal Danish Navy
Lynx Mk 80 S-175 Esk 722

Royal Danish Army
Hughes 500M H-246 Helikopterkompagnie
SA55OC-2 Fennec P-288 P-HK
SA550C-2 Fennec P-320 P-HK

French Air Force
Mirage F1B 518 (12-ZK) EC 2/12
Mirage F1C 39 (12-ZM) EC 2/12

French Army Air Corps
SA342M Gazelle 4019 (CXQ) 4 EHAC/1 RHC
AS332M-1 Super Puma 2273 (AIR) 4 RHCM

French Navy
Atlantique 7 24F
Falcon 10(MER) 32 3S
Lynx HAS4(FN) 811 34F
Nord 262E 72 2S
Super Etendard 2 59S
EMB 121 Xingu 70 11S

German Air Force
Alpha Jet 40+48 JbG-43
Alpha Jet 40+56 WTD-61
Canberra B2 99+34 WTD-61
F-4F Phantom 37+12 JbG-35
RF-4E Phantom 35+09 AkG-52
RF-4E Phantom 35+65 AkG-52
Tornado 44+81 JbG-34
UH-1D Iroquois 71+76 HTG-64

German Army
MBB Bo1O5P 87+82 MHFTR-16
Sikorsky CH-53G 84+03 MHFTR-15

German Navy
Lynx Mk88 83+03 MFG-3
Mil Mi-8T Hip 94+01 MFHG
Tornado 43+76 MFG-1
Tornado 45+50 MFG-2

Hungarian Air Force
An-26 Curl 204 (2204) Szolnok Air Transport Regt

Israeli Air Force
Al 1124N SEA SCAN 929/4X-JYR 120 Sqn

Italian Air Force
AMX Centaur MM7142 (3-04) 30 Stormo
AMX Centaur MM7134 (3-01) 3 Stormo
Atlantic MM40125 (30-12) 30 Stormo

Royal Jordanian Air Force
C-130H Hercules 347 3 Sqn

Kuwait Air Force
F/A-18D Hornet 442 25 Sqn
L100-30 Hercules KAF 324 41 Sqn

Royal Netherlands Air Force
Alouette III A-464 298 Sqn
F-16A Fighting Falcon J-212 323 Sqn
F-16B Fighting Falcon J-068 313 Sqn
F-16B Fighting Falcon J-067 315 Sqn (313 Sqn mks)
F-16B Fighting Falcon J-264 322 Sqn
MBB Bo1O5CB B-68 299 Sqn
PC-7 Turbo-Trainer L-10 EMVO

Royal Netherlands Navy
P-3C Orion 311 320 Sqn

Royal New Zealand Air Force
Aermacchi MB339CB NZ6475 14 Sqn
Boeing 727-22C NZ7271 4O Sqn

Royal Norwegian Air Force
F-16B Fighting Falcon 711 331 Skv
F-5B Freedom Fighter 241 336 Skv
F-5B Freedom Fighter 595 336 Skv

Royal Air Force of Oman
BAC1-11-485GD 551 4 Sqn

Portuguese Air Force
C-130H Hercules 6804 501 Esq
Fiat G-91R 5445 301 Esq
FiatG-91R 5454 301 Esq

Russian Air Force
Ilyushin 11-78 Midas 34 (1013404138) Long-Range Aviation
Tupolev Tu-95MC Bear-H 20 (34108) Mozgok

Swedish Air Force
Tp84 Hercules 84005 (845) F7
JA37 Viggen 37446 (03) F4

Turkish Air Force
F1O4G Starfighter 8334 (8-334) 181 Filo
TF-104G Starfighter 5704 (8-704) 181 Filo

United States Air Force
A-IOA Thunderbolt II 81-0978 (SP) 52nd FW/SlOth FS
A-1OA Thunderbolt II 82-0654 (SP) 52nd FW/SlOth FS
B-lB Lancer 85-0077 (EL) 28th BW/77th BS
B-52H Stratofortress 60-0001 (LA) 2nd WG/2Oth BS
C-130E Hercules 63-7887 435th AW/37th AS
EC-130E Hercules 63-9817 193rd SOS/PA ANG
MC-130H Hercules 86-1699 352nd SOG/7th SOS
WC-135B Stratotanker 6l-2673 55th WRS
KC-135E Stratotanker 57-2595 147th AREFS/PA ANG
KC-135E Stratotanker 58-0052 452nd AFREW/ 336th AREFS
KC-135R Stratotanker 57-1427 145th AREFS/OH ANG
KC-135R Stratotanker 58-0100 (D) 100th AREFW/ 351st AREFS
RC-135U Stratotanker 64-14849 (OF) 55th WG/343rd RS
C-141B Starlifter 66-0144 437th AW/l7th ALS
C-4B Galaxy 87-0041 436th AW/2Oth ALS
C-9A Nightingale 71-0881 86th WG/55th ALS
Beech C-12F 84-0166 86th WG/58th ALS
C-21A Learjet 84-0085 86th WG/58th AS
GD F-11IE 68-0064 (UH) 20th FW/SSth FS
F-4G Phantom 69-7286 (SP) 52nd FW/8lst FS
F-15C Eagle 80-0029 (IS) 35th WG/57th FS
F-1SC Eagle 84-0003 (BT) 36th FW/53rd FS
F-15C Eagle 84-0021 (BT) 36th FW/53rd FS
F-15D Eagle 80-0057 (IS) 35th WG/57th FS
F-16C Fighting Falcon 90-0831 (SP) 52nd FW/480th FS
F-16D Fighting Falcon 90-0843 (SP) 52nd FW/480th FS
HH-60G Pavehawk 89-26205 56th RQS

United States Army
AH-64A Apache 88-0199 2-227th Avn Bn
CH-47D Chinook 87-0106 B Coy, 6-158th Avn Bn
OH-58D Kiowa 87-0744 B Coy, 1st Arm.Div.
RC-12K Huron 85-0148 1 MIB
UH-60A Blackhawk 88-26072 A Coy, 7-227th Avn Bn

United States Navy
A-6E Intruder 164382 (AJ-500) VA-36 (USS Theodore Roosevelt)
F-14A Tomcat 160390 (AJ-202) VF-84 (USS Theodore Roosevelt)
F/A-18C Hornet 164689 (AJ-300) VFA-15 (USS Theodore Roosevelt)
P-3C Orion 157310 (LP-6) VP-49

United States Marine Corps
KC-130T Hercules 164999 (NY) VMGR-452

Civilian
Bell 206 Jet Ranger G-FOXM Fox FM
Cessna 340A HB-LPK Bruno Stocker
DH82A Tiger Moth K2567/G-MOTH Mike Russell
DH82B Queen Bee LF858/G-BLUZ Barry Bayes
DH89 Dragon Rapide G-AKIF Airborne Taxi Services
DH1O4 Devon C2 WB531/G-BLRN DHIO4 Preservation
DH1O4 Sea Devon C20 XK895/G-SDEV (19/CU) P.C. Gill & W. Gentle
PA-28 Cherokee 140 G-DIAT Bristol & Wessex AC
PBY-SA Catalina G-BLSC (P) Plane Sailing
Falcon 20 G-FRAM FR Aviation
Provost T1 XF597/(G-BKFW A-H) Alan House
Tu-134 Crusty RA-65760 (62187) Aeroflot

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harkins wrote:
Spotty_Jag wrote:
JackyRIATWilson wrote:Good point raised with Sky Tanker however; would certainly fill up the static.

The static was FULL this year. So full there wasn't space for the Turkish KC-135. Adding more tankers isn't necessarily a good idea...

My understanding was that the Turkish KC-135 wasn't over in the static park because it was offered too late and that they could not rearrange the layout and get it past the stalls etc. The south side of the airfield certainly didn't feel FULL of aircraft to me. Far from it.

The biggest problem with any theme now is that there is so little available and so little variation of types fulfilling any particular role that it is a struggle for a theme to really stand out among the rest of the static. This years space theme felt like the final nail in the coffin of Air Tattoo themes to me.


Although they probably couldn't move it where they and we all wanted it, pretty sure they could have stuck it at the end of green near the E3. Better there than north side.

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That list of statics from '93 is just teasing! :love:
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mavvymoo wrote:That list of statics from '93 is just teasing! :love:



Yep, remember it very well, so when DBH say the static is full aka 2017/2019 yet only half of what was there in the 90s (same airbase but now more spece due to more concrete going down) so going back to an earlier posting of mine - if the static place is full it cant be with aircraft compaired to the 90s can it.

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DBH have never claimed the static is full.

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