Leeming off limits

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hi guys, just to let you know, the police was called today and informed everyone that as from today nobody is allowed on to the farmers land at 34 end, after having a quick chat with peter he has had enough of "all the hassle" from the idiots who damage his land the clowns who have woke him up knocking on his door early and especially from his neighbours, he said that it wasnt him who phoned the police today but from now on he will have no choice but to ring them himself.
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So because of a few idiots not obeying the courtesies of aviation photography we are all not allowed to go to the field? Even those who do obey the courtesies? Absolute joke.

I'll be writing to the chap then!

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JackyRIATWilson wrote:So because of a few idiots not obeying the courtesies of aviation photography we are all not allowed to go to the field? Even those who do obey the courtesies? Absolute joke.

I'll be writing to the chap then!

Jack.


I seriously hope you're kidding

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tommercer wrote:
JackyRIATWilson wrote:So because of a few idiots not obeying the courtesies of aviation photography we are all not allowed to go to the field? Even those who do obey the courtesies? Absolute joke.

I'll be writing to the chap then!

Jack.


I seriously hope you're kidding


Well no, I'm not actually going to be writing, more of an empty will, but I just cannot understand WHY all of us are now effectively trespassers on his land, because a few plonkers don't confide to etiquette?

Jack.

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You've answered your own question right there

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JackyRIATWilson wrote:So because of a few idiots not obeying the courtesies of aviation photography we are all not allowed to go to the field? Even those who do obey the courtesies? Absolute joke.


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tommercer wrote:You've answered your own question right there


No he has specified that as of now anyone in that field is a trespasser, whereas before he was OK with it, but then had to call the police in as people were damaging the field (and not in a replacable way.)

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I think it's worth remembering that the access is a privilege not a right, and sometimes it's easier to say 'no' completely rather than invest more time & effort in some form of 'policing'.
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Try offering to pay the Farmer a £5, most will not think of spending £20-£30 to take a few static shots at night or airshow.

Here you have the chance to view some good fast jet action all day, best seats in the house close to the action and take it for free, then start moaning when you or some of you abuse the freebie.
Guess its ok to then make a few quid buy selling said images that was taken on private land.

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It's his land. He has no obligation to let anyone on it nor does anyone have the right to be on it. He also has no obligation to explain his reasons, it's basically a case of "tough".

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JackyRIATWilson wrote:
tommercer wrote:
Well no, I'm not actually going to be writing, more of an empty will, but I just cannot understand WHY all of us are now effectively trespassers on his land, because a few plonkers don't confide to etiquette?

Jack.


End of the day everyone was trespassing and the land owner was tolerating it. However the man is well within his rights and it is a case of the few spoiling for the many.

It almost happened at CBY during the Saudi exercise thanks to idiots not being able to drive down a narrow track slowly and carefully instead driving over the farmers crops at speed!

I suggest everyone respects the owners wishes as to not cock things up for good, potentially around the whole perimeter if the RAF get fed up with complaints.

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I was there on Tuesday and the police moved us too. Not one of us walked over crops. We carefully went around the edge. The farmer wasn't in, so we assumed the B&B owner called them as we saw the police talking to her.

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Kenny wrote:I was there on Tuesday and the police moved us too. Not one of us walked over crops. We carefully went around the edge. The farmer wasn't in, so we assumed the B&B owner called them as we saw the police talking to her.

Interesting that the police are removing people from private land at the request of someone who isn't the land owner and when they don't have a civic court order to do so. Overstepping the mark, much..?

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On the few occasions I've used the field I've never asked, as there has always been someone in there already. It has been pointed out in other posts, elsewhere, he may not be in. However, I have every sympathy for the farmer, it is his field, and having seen what has happened at Leuchars in the past, there are "Aviation Enthusiasts", who think it is their God given right to do whatever they want, to get their piccys.
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Kenny wrote:I was there on Tuesday and the police moved us too. Not one of us walked over crops. We carefully went around the edge. The farmer wasn't in, so we assumed the B&B owner called them as we saw the police talking to her.


Police will only act on the direct request of a Landowner or his agent.
I am totally on the side of the Farmer. Over the years I've seen enthusiasts running across crops to get their photo, seen the mess that some leave behind, seen the way that some argue with RAF / Civil Police. As with all things in life, a few idiots spoil it for everyone else :roll:

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I can fully understand any landowner getting fed up with idiots. As always it is only a matter of time.

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If people/idiots abuse the privilege then expect it to be taken away, a polite word to those that offend would help if you saw someone doing something but then I guess most would just stand there and let them carry on sadly.

There should be a money tin like at Johns field at Mildenhall, so people have to pay with a notice up, kindly asking not to trample all over the guys business.
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Maisie wrote:kindly asking not to trample all over the guys business.

I can see how that'd be most annoying, and no doubt quite painful! :confused:

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With the price of camera carrying quadcopters dropping all the time, I wonder when we will have our first incident
at a airfield. :hide:

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boff180 wrote:
It almost happened at CBY during the Saudi exercise thanks to idiots not being able to drive down a narrow track slowly and carefully instead driving over the farmers crops at speed!

Andy


It was an absolute disgrace at Coningsby during Green Flag, as a regular there for many years, its the first time I have been ashamed of being a plane spotter and photographer of said aircraft.

The only thing that saved everybody's bacon at CBY this year was a wip-round for the damage to crops, being given to the farmer, who I belive gave it to charity.

Personally I hope that Green Flag is never, not ever coming back.

Offbreed wrote:With the price of camera carrying quadcopters dropping all the time, I wonder when we will have our first incident
at a airfield. :hide:


Horrifying thought, but I fear something that will happen!!

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Offbreed wrote:With the price of camera carrying quadcopters dropping all the time, I wonder when we will have our first incident
at a airfield. :hide:


Already happened at AMARG (with the station commanders consent), the results are on YouTube.

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Mindless cretins, I say it every time I read this sort of shameful stories like this it only takes one mindless moronic idiot to spoil or ruin the hobby for everyone else.

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It was an absolute disgrace at Coningsby during Green Flag, as a regular there for many years, its the first time I have been ashamed of being a plane spotter and photographer of said aircraft.

The only thing that saved everybody's bacon at CBY this year was a wip-round for the damage to crops, being given to the farmer, who I belive gave it to charity


Not just at Green Flag I was at Coningsby in the summer and someone was out in a field full of crops taking photos (of the aircraft not the crops) and damaging the crops in the process when someone else told the guy off for it the response was "I don't give a ---- mate not my crops not my ---- problem" With clowns like that around is it any wonder farmers ban everyone from there land - something of course they have every right to do.
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When you say about the quadcopters, I assume one means flying one near a base trying to get that 'differen't photo?

I think if any base saw something flying near by then no doubt MOD/RAF/USAF police would be straight out.

boff180 wrote:
Offbreed wrote:With the price of camera carrying quadcopters dropping all the time, I wonder when we will have our first incident
at a airfield. :hide:


Already happened at AMARG (with the station commanders consent), the results are on YouTube.



I'm struggling to find the video?
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Maisie wrote:When you say about the quadcopters, I assume one means flying one near a base trying to get that 'differen't photo?

I think if any base saw something flying near by then no doubt MOD/RAF/USAF police would be straight out.

boff180 wrote:
Offbreed wrote:With the price of camera carrying quadcopters dropping all the time, I wonder when we will have our first incident
at a airfield. :hide:


Already happened at AMARG (with the station commanders consent), the results are on YouTube.



I'm struggling to find the video?


I am too now, I saw it a few months back, I wonder if it has been pulled. This wasn't a quad copter, it was an RC Plane with a go pro strapped to it. Flew it at very low level between the aircraft!

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