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New CAA CAP 403 Display Regs Published

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Hi guys,

Hot off the presses, the new display regulations were published today!

I haven't had chance to read it yet... the good news from a very quick word search is that it appears display line distances appear have not been changed.

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP ... sMAR16.pdf

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The bits that have changed , to save reading all of it ( also note the bit I've underlined at the end ) :
Edition 13, Amendment 2016/01 February 2016
Amends to reflect change in display application requirements (Chapter 3 Part A, Chapter 4 Part A and Annex A – Risk Assessment) and introduction of fitness assessment for Flying Display Director and display pilots (Chapter 1 Part A). All subsequent to CAA’s review of flying display regulation conducted in 2015/6. Due to their urgent nature these changes have been made ahead of a major revision to this CAP in late 2016.

Wonder if they've got the changes reference wrong & that '1-A' should actually read '2-A' , as there's nothing underlined in red ( to indicate a change ) in Ch.1 but there is in Ch.2 ??
Changes/additions that I can see ( some are only single-line changes to the older rules ) :

2.4 FDD’s are required to undergo behavioural and attitudinal fitness assessment as a condition of their acceptance in relation to flying display applications. As part of this, FDDs should submit a behavioural and attitudinal fitness questionnaire ( SRG 1303B ), prior to, or alongside the first display application containing their name each year.

3.4 Applicants for flying display permissions are newly required to submit an up-to-date 1:50,000 scale Ordnance Survey map (or colour copy) alongside their application showing the event location and the layout of the site including:
 the display axis or axes
 boundaries of the display area
 spectator’s enclosures and car parks
and, any surrounding:
 congested areas - hospitals, schools, power stations;
 masts, railway lines, bridges and other local infrastructure;
 major / busy roads;
 areas where non-paying spectators assemble,
that are put at increased risk as a result of the display taking place.
3.5 This information forms part of the risk assessment CAA conducts as part of the display approval process.

4.34 Form SRG 1303 or SRG 1304 should be forwarded, together with a 1:50,000 scale map clearly delineating the display line and/or area, the spectator enclosure layout including car parks and any restricted or sensitive areas in the immediate area of the display venue. This map should also show any surrounding: congested areas - hospitals, schools, power stations; masts, railway lines, bridges and other local infrastructure; major / busy roads; areas where non-paying spectators assemble, that are put at increased risk as a result of the display taking place.

4.35 The Form SRG 1303 or SRG 1304, the map and the appropriate payment (Credit/debit card, BACS payment) should reach the CAA GA Unit at least 42 days before the display date.

4.45 The emergency plan must include information about how to communicate information about any potential latent hazards that exist within performing aircraft to emergency services should an incident occur.
4.46 In deciding who to notify and liaise within the Local Authorities and Emergency Services the size of event will have bearing. Notifying the local police and local authority planning department can adequately cover a village fete with flypast. However, for medium and large events, or if in doubt, Event Organisers should direct their initial correspondence to the Chief Officers of the Emergency Services of the area/s in which they intend to hold the event (the Chief Constable, Chief Fire Officer, Chief Ambulance Officer and Chief Executive of the Local Authority). The Event Organiser should notify each in writing, and, if the event straddles more than one area (e.g. two constabularies), all Chief Officers should be notified.

4.52 Local Authorities have control of the various public services which an Event Organiser may wish to use, and in any case will wish to be aware of the additional air activity which is to take place, in anticipation of any queries or complaints which may arise. Depending on the size of your event this may include liaison with your local Safety Advisory Group. Additionally, the event emergency plan will be expected to comply with Local Authorities existing major incident plans and the Civil Contingencies Act 2004.


Also see 'Appendix A : Risk Assessment' ( too many changes to cut & paste )
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The key bits of Appendix A - Risk Assessment....

A19 Mitigating risks to third parties not involved in the display itself, poses
particular challenges for flying display organisers because there is
less ability to confine them to restricted areas. When seeking to
mitigate these risks organisers should be aware of the range of
options open to them which include:
 engagement with local authority Safety Advisory Groups,
Highways England, local highways authorities and rail network
operators where appropriate;
 application for road closures and/or Temporary Traffic Orders
during the display;
 providing alternative routes for members of the general public who
wish to avoid passing directly by the air display location;
 ensuring that there is adequate information provided to the general
public, both in advance and during the air show;
 engaging with the owners or controllers of land near a display site
where the general public may or are known to gather and
informing them of their;
 informing the public that the safest viewing point is always within
designated spectator areas provided by the organiser.
A20 Step 5 concludes by a reassessment of the risk rating if planned
mitigations are put in place.
A21 Organisations must record and retain the details of their risk
assessment process and submit evidence of it as part of display
application.

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Oh and this has sneaked in at the beginning ...... more to come.....

Amends to reflect change in display application requirements (Chapter 3 Part A,
Chapter 4 Part A and Annex A – Risk Assessment) and introduction of fitness
assessment for Flying Display Director and display pilots (Chapter 1 Part A). All
subsequent to CAA’s review of flying display regulation conducted in 2015/6.
Due to their urgent nature these changes have been made ahead of a major
revision to this CAP in late 2016.

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Not that sneaked in really, since Brevet highlighted it, and underlined it, in his post above.

It needs to be read alongside the previous version to fully understand the changes. The so-called 'newly required' to attach a map is not new, it was in already but in a different location - although there are additional hazards to be detailed.

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Hmm......now who was it again who once posted :
p.s. the text Brevet has copied was in the quotes posted first thing this morning... do people read before posting.... :hide: :surrender:

I wonder ??

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Was on my mobile and didn't see it so :tongue2:

Anyway, not listed as a change this paragraph is non-the-less interesting... I know RIAT is not CAA (before someone says) but how hilarious would it be if a solid 25ft temporary fence appeared infront of Rhymes.....

At many events, particularly at airfield sites, the congregation of
spectators, outside the airfield boundary, on the live-side, may give
organisers cause for concern. Neither the Police nor the Local
Authority has the power to remove these people, especially if they
have the permission of the landowner upon whose land they are
congregating. It is recommended that the Event Organiser anticipates
this during the planning process and takes necessary steps to reduce
it by, where possible, blocking the view from obvious vantage points.

Consideration should also be given to notifying landowners (or over
water, pleasure boat owners) of the risks of allowing spectators to
watch the display/event from their land/vessel. Landowners/owners
should be advised that they have a liability to protect the public from
obvious and anticipated risks at public events, and, in the event of an
accident, they could be held liable for injuries to spectators on the
property. It is advised that professional legal advice on such
notification is taken prior to action.

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I was thinking exactly the same thing about Rhymes and a huge fence.It would certainly stop photographers shooting through the fence when the aircraft taxi past them.

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Well they've already erected the fence along other parts of the perimeter , so you never know.....Image
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I use Rhymes every year on one day at least, the main attraction being the close proximity to the flying display above, yes it is great being able to shoot through the fence at taxiing planes, but I am now resigned to the fact that Rhymes days could be numbered, especially when reading the bit that says "where non paying spectators gather" and the risk assessment!

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Anything which appears to be a nail in the coffin of camp sites under display areas and naughty fields/ non paying spectators gets a :up: from me.

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What a travesty. Another case of Mr 'elf and Mr Safety sticking their noses into places they shouldn't. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say..... Give me a form and I'll sign any disclaimer and take full responsibility for my own safety should anything fall on top of me or my property when I'm taking part in my favourite pastime of watching planes up close and personal.

For them that don't want to do this, then go fishing or bowling, leave the airspace above Rhymes or wherever to those that appreciate it and are more than happy to take any consequences of it.

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boff180 wrote:Was on my mobile and didn't see it so :tongue2:

Anyway, not listed as a change this paragraph is non-the-less interesting... I know RIAT is not CAA (before someone says) but how hilarious would it be if a solid 25ft temporary fence appeared infront of Rhymes.....

At many events, particularly at airfield sites, the congregation of
spectators, outside the airfield boundary, on the live-side, may give
organisers cause for concern. Neither the Police nor the Local
Authority has the power to remove these people, especially if they
have the permission of the landowner upon whose land they are
congregating. It is recommended that the Event Organiser anticipates
this during the planning process and takes necessary steps to reduce
it by, where possible, blocking the view from obvious vantage points.

Consideration should also be given to notifying landowners (or over
water, pleasure boat owners) of the risks of allowing spectators to
watch the display/event from their land/vessel. Landowners/owners
should be advised that they have a liability to protect the public from
obvious and anticipated risks at public events, and, in the event of an
accident, they could be held liable for injuries to spectators on the
property. It is advised that professional legal advice on such
notification is taken prior to action.


Wow, this bit really does read as a bit of a joke to be honest! Poor land owners, farmers are usually up at the crack of dawn, work the whole day through till the evening and they work 7 days a week. But hey, they need to find the time and money to consult a legal professional about freeloaders, erect a 50ft high solid fence or maybe plant in a good long thick row of Conifers, alternatively spend a load of money on security and have your field(s) guarded while an airshow is on. Maybe having a pack of hungry wolves in the field would be cheaper?!

Hopefully having a few signs stuck on fences saying "private property keep out" is enough, but I'm not so sure. I guess that's where the legal advice would come in! Also, if there is a public right of way through land I presume that would become the councils responsibility?

Glad it's not looking as doom and gloom as first thought.

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Thumper wrote: Maybe having a pack of hungry wolves in the field would be cheaper?!


Not a great choice as wolves have rarely if ever attacked people. You need at least a pride of lions or a polar bear or two. :grin:

I think it must have been as long ago as the mid 90s when a canvas type fence was put up along Rhymes so no one could see in unless they had a big ladder or a van they could stand on? I think people go there more for the flying shots than the taxi shots (into the sun) to be honest though, so they wouldn't care too much if it was resurrected.

I wouldn't mind them gone from there as it ruins the backdrop on the take off shots if they stay low. :biggrin:
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boff180 wrote:The key bits of Appendix A - Risk Assessment....

A19 Mitigating risks to third parties not involved in the display itself, poses
particular challenges for flying display organisers because there is
less ability to confine them to restricted areas. When seeking to
mitigate these risks organisers should be aware of the range of
options open to them which include:
 engagement with local authority Safety Advisory Groups,
Highways England, local highways authorities and rail network
operators where appropriate;
 application for road closures and/or Temporary Traffic Orders
during the display;
 providing alternative routes for members of the general public who
wish to avoid passing directly by the air display location;
 ensuring that there is adequate information provided to the general
public, both in advance and during the air show;
engaging with the owners or controllers of land near a display site
where the general public may or are known to gather and
informing them of their;
 informing the public that the safest viewing point is always within
designated spectator areas provided by the organiser.
A20 Step 5 concludes by a reassessment of the risk rating if planned
mitigations are put in place.
A21 Organisations must record and retain the details of their risk
assessment process and submit evidence of it as part of display
application.


Does this mean that we can stay at these campsites, if we have excepted the risk after the land owner has warned us of the risks?
Or is part of that paragraph missing?.
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Thumper wrote:
boff180 wrote:It is recommended that the Event Organiser anticipates this during the planning process and takes necessary steps to reduce it by, where possible, blocking the view from obvious vantage points.


Wow, this bit really does read as a bit of a joke to be honest! Poor land owners, farmers are usually up at the crack of dawn, work the whole day through till the evening and they work 7 days a week. But hey, they need to find the time and money to consult a legal professional about freeloaders, erect a 50ft high solid fence or maybe plant in a good long thick row of Conifers, alternatively spend a load of money on security and have your field(s) guarded while an airshow is on.

See the bit in bold in Andy's post -- it's the Event Organiser's responsibility to erect screening if needed.
As for people on their land - authorised or not - your average farmer should already be conversant with the laws regarding this.
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sithrity wrote:Does this mean that we can stay at these campsites, if we have excepted the risk after the land owner has warned us of the risks?
Or is part of that paragraph missing?.

Nope , the paragraph is complete......so yes , as things stand ( although note the 'Due to their urgent nature these changes have been made ahead of a major revision to this CAP in late 2016' quote in previous posts ) it won't affect the campsites as long as they've complied with the safety requirements.
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The debates around camping and campsites and especially those not camping alone but in smaller numbers than groups of three have been subject two in tents speculation. :tumbleweed:
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Did anyone who used to play the SIMS ever build a door-less wall around their Sims and just leave them to see what happens? We could do that with the naughty mound at Duxford!

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HuwJHopkins wrote:Did anyone who used to play the SIMS ever build a door-less wall around their Sims and just leave them to see what happens? We could do that with the naughty mound at Duxford!


Appropriate - most of them talk Simlish anyway.

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Brevet Cable wrote:See the bit in bold in Andy's post -- it's the Event Organiser's responsibility to erect screening if needed.
As for people on their land - authorised or not - your average farmer should already be conversant with the laws regarding this.


Thanks for the clarification there, didn't read that bit properly! :oops:

Screening is only going to put people off going to events such as Bruntingthorpe where you have taxi runs, it ain't gonna discourage anyone from an airshow and as mentioned all it takes is a set of step ladders or a Landy roof, problem solved!

I also note that it says the police do not have the power to remove persons from land if they are there with the landowners permission. That really is quite an awkward one, I know the police can issue a dispersal notice but presumably this is where the problem lies for that, if they are welcome on the land I guess the landowner and public there win over safety issues for an airshow.

At Yeovilton Air Day last year I was at a pub (I had bought tickets but the queue was terrible and I was about to miss the V-Force formation). Aircraft flew right overhead, it was a fantastic spot, not shooting into the sun and caught aircraft such as the Super Etendards and the Typhoon pulling some stunning tight turns with vapour and the Vulcan passed over nice and low with a topside. Will the pubs landlords be liable if any injuries or deaths should occur due to an aircraft coming down there?

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The Star of Woo wrote: Another case of Mr 'elf and Mr Safety sticking their noses into places they shouldn't. .


Exactly what has the noble profession of Health and Safety got to do with this??

The Star of Woo wrote:Give me a form and I'll sign any disclaimer and take full responsibility for my own safety should anything fall on top of me or my property when I'm taking part in my favourite pastime of watching planes up close and personal..

I'm sure many others would, however this has got a lot more to do with protecting those that have no interest in the event and are merely passing by/living/working in/under the area. That's why Shoreham is such a game changer.
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I have no probs at all with the un-interested being protected, but what has that got to do with the so called 'naughty fields', where I guess everyone is more than interested, a lot of the fields or vantage points in question don't have many residents who could be called uninterested, so leave them alone and let the interested get on with what we like doing.

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speedbird2639 wrote:Anything which appears to be a nail in the coffin of camp sites under display areas and naughty fields/ non paying spectators gets a :up: from me.


And me. Waddington and Duxford used to receive a massive round of moaning about shooting into the sun as both these venues are / were south facing crowdlines. RIAT has a north facing crowdline but some of the individuals who moaned frequent Rymes farm which is southern facing.....

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XX752 wrote:
speedbird2639 wrote:Anything which appears to be a nail in the coffin of camp sites under display areas and naughty fields/ non paying spectators gets a :up: from me.


And me. Waddington and Duxford used to receive a massive round of moaning about shooting into the sun as both these venues are / were south facing crowdlines. RIAT has a north facing crowdline but some of the individuals who moaned frequent Rymes farm which is southern facing.....


What direction do most aircraft turn after a pass? Answer, away from the crowd line. That means that when they topside about half a mile from the airshow, there are perfectly lit shots from the campsite. It's why naughty fields are the best place to be, photographically. You're in the middle. It doesn't matter where the sun is!

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