Canberra WK163 to be restored to flight

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paullangford wrote:Hopefully they won't use the same lot that were on CH5's Monster Moves, dismantling and transporting the prototype Canberra from Coventry to Newquay.
That was painful to watch.......... :oops:

Yeah that was painful to watch, they looked a complete bunch of amateurs. I would think the vtts will use their own engineers, in doing so they will get to know the airframe and gain important knowledge. The vtts have had and will have a load of stick for not doing this or for doing that but you can't please everybody but I really would like to see this Canberra fly again so good luck to them and I may even donate which will be a first.

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Marka1967 wrote:
paullangford wrote:Hopefully they won't use the same lot that were on CH5's Monster Moves, dismantling and transporting the prototype Canberra from Coventry to Newquay.
That was painful to watch.......... :oops:

Yeah that was painful to watch, they looked a complete bunch of amateurs. I would think the vtts will use their own engineers, in doing so they will get to know the airframe and gain important knowledge. The vtts have had and will have a load of stick for not doing this or for doing that but you can't please everybody but I really would like to see this Canberra fly again so good luck to them and I may even donate which will be a first.


I've got every confidence in the VTTS doing a fantastic job :up:

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paullangford wrote:Hopefully they won't use the same lot that were on CH5's Monster Moves, dismantling and transporting the prototype Canberra from Coventry to Newquay.
That was painful to watch.......... :oops:


I've got a feeling that the company who dismantled 'VN799' are no longer trading. Hope this time round they remember to drain all fuel tanks beforehand... :oops:

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If this can be done, then I'll enjoy the sight and sound of a Canberra in the skies once again. Those aircraft were 1 of 3 of my late father's favourites when he served with the RAF. I'll look at the finer points of the VTTS Canberra project,and then decide from there.
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GJD Aero Tech will apparently be the contractors moving WK163 ( subject to VTTS acquiring the airframe itself of course! ). Previous experience with Canberras and the same people who moved the VC10 from Bruntingthorpe to Cosford according to the Newsletter...

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MicrolightDriver wrote:GJD Aero Tech will apparently be the contractors moving WK163 ( subject to VTTS acquiring the airframe itself of course! ). Previous experience with Canberras and the same people who moved the VC10 from Bruntingthorpe to Cosford according to the Newsletter...


And the same people who own and operate the VC10 at Bruntingthorpe.

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GertrudetheMerciless wrote:
MicrolightDriver wrote:GJD Aero Tech will apparently be the contractors moving WK163 ( subject to VTTS acquiring the airframe itself of course! ). Previous experience with Canberras and the same people who moved the VC10 from Bruntingthorpe to Cosford according to the Newsletter...


And the same people who own and operate the VC10 at Bruntingthorpe.

And one of the Buccaneers I believe?
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An update to G-INFO

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Mark: G-CTTS
Current Reg. Date: 03/06/2016
Previous ID: WK163

Oh God, they're actually going for 'Canberra To The Sky' aren't they?

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:tumbleweed: :surrender:
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Top quality trolling by the trust there. I can just picture them laughing as they submitted the reg.

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Gregg wrote:Top quality trolling by the trust there. I can just picture them laughing as they submitted the reg.

Indeed, and it didn't take long for them to get a bite! :clap: :lol:

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Nope. Like shooting fish in a barrel. With a really, really big gun.

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tommercer wrote:Mark: G-CTTS
Current Reg. Date: 03/06/2016
Previous ID: WK163

Oh God, they're actually going for 'Canberra To The Sky' aren't they?


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Yep! At present it's a redirect to http://www.vulcantothesky.org/ so that's all but confirmed it...

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Intention is to have the airframe at Doncaster by the end of July, according to the Newsletter. Caveats apply.

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From today's newsletter:
Very soon, contractors will start the dismantling of WK163 to its major sections ahead of preparations to transport and reassemble her in the hangar at Doncaster, before a deep survey to task out the full extent of the restoration project.
Just got me thinking, wouldn't it be easier to do the survey before it is put back together? You might get better access to some areas, I'd thought.
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To ensure WK163 is not exposed to the elements any more than she needs to be, we have appointed contractors ahead of having the full funding in place to cover the dismantling, transport and re-assembly of the aircraft, so we can get the aircraft under cover at Doncaster just as soon as possible. This is a large commitment and of course, as a charity, we are looking for public support to recover this cost.


The above is a quote from the latest e-mail update, can anyone else see the potential for things to go horribly wrong here, what happens if the money is not forthcoming and the jet ends up in bits stuck at Coventry.

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Wow that really is quite ballsy (to be read as stupid). I wonder if my local exotic car dealer will have a Lambo delivered to me tomorrow, I promise I'll get the money to him but it might take a while as I am asking for donations, it also might not happen, who knows but I'm sure he'll do the deal!

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I haven't been to Coventry since they announced the Doncaster plans - is she still in the ex CAF hanger? Can any XV232 or WR963 team/visitor confirm this? I was hoping for a pre-dismantling peek at her on the 9th (if access is possible of course :biggrin: ). I realise the photos all show her outside but I hope she hasn't been evicted from the hanger yet?

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Rebecca_1984 wrote:
To ensure WK163 is not exposed to the elements any more than she needs to be, we have appointed contractors ahead of having the full funding in place to cover the dismantling, transport and re-assembly of the aircraft, so we can get the aircraft under cover at Doncaster just as soon as possible. This is a large commitment and of course, as a charity, we are looking for public support to recover this cost.


The above is a quote from the latest e-mail update, can anyone else see the potential for things to go horribly wrong here, what happens if the money is not forthcoming and the jet ends up in bits stuck at Coventry.


Seeing as who the contractor is (one with a record of preservation and generosity too - ie Black Mike's preservation) I suspect we can all be reasonably confident that should it all go to pot with CTTS, the aircraft may well have a future elsewhere.

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Worst-case scenario here is that money runs out, and BOTH their airframes end up homeless.

What assurances, I wonder, have the CAA given that a civilian operator will be allowed, in the current climate, to fly a vintage jet bomber? Since Shoreham this is a very different world from the one XH558 flew in.

I worry a Canberra won't mean enough to the public to sustain donations, and this ambition (perhaps over-stretching) has put the future of two lovely aeroplanes in jeopardy.

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IP1960 wrote:I haven't been to Coventry since they announced the Doncaster plans - is she still in the ex CAF hangar? Can any XV232 or WR963 team/visitor confirm this? I was hoping for a pre-dismantling peek at her on the 9th (if access is possible of course :biggrin: ). I realise the photos all show her outside but I hope she hasn't been evicted from the hangar yet?


That poor Canberra has been stuck outside all winter, in fact probably a bit longer as it has become a very familiar sight to us when arriving to work on our Shackleton.....

Exposure to the elements for far longer than some imagine I'm sure, and not one sign of any care & maintenance whilst she has been out there :sad:
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Rebecca_1984 wrote:
To ensure WK163 is not exposed to the elements any more than she needs to be, we have appointed contractors ahead of having the full funding in place to cover the dismantling, transport and re-assembly of the aircraft, so we can get the aircraft under cover at Doncaster just as soon as possible. This is a large commitment and of course, as a charity, we are looking for public support to recover this cost.


The above is a quote from the latest e-mail update, can anyone else see the potential for things to go horribly wrong here, what happens if the money is not forthcoming and the jet ends up in bits stuck at Coventry.


Of course, we hear charities telling us every day they are awash with funds, have plenty to deal with the causes they are so passionate about and simply do not need any more cash from the public!

I think you will find it was clearly to say it only ever happens if the public keep giving. Various companies and rich individuals have tried it and failed or simply given up, but with public support, VTST do wish to deliver and I commend their constant desire to do so. Maybe a more positive outlook for the only way forward in historic aviation is needed?

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Looks like she is on the move

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