Brevet Cable wrote:Look around the Joe Pubs attending airshows...you'll still see a lot of them wearing t-shirts, caps, etc. that they bought on the VTTS stalls in previous years.
What does it say on them? XH558.
You say I give them too much credit, I'd say you don't give them enough.
There's still people out there wearing Elvis T-shirts too. Its a T-shirt they fancied when they had a bit of cash available, its not like they've sold their soul to scientology for it. Either way, show a t-shirt wearing Joe Public a random Vulcan picture and the chances are high they won't identify it by serial number. I'll concede they might at most say its 'the' Vulcan rather than 'a' Vulcan.
Brevet Cable wrote:What have fans/followers got to do with 'market'? They're the ones who still buy the bumf & attend the various events.
What's VTST's income from sales of bumf & events compared to the other Vulcans, the Victors or even the Shackleton.....do any of them even come close to what VTST make?
True, your market is within your social media fans, but its not all of them, and not proportional when prices for seeing engine runs are beyond the means of most of them! As I posted earlier, there's an awful lot of people out there that were interested in the aircraft and are now watching to see how far this train wreck is going to go. We're not their market, and we're not going to spend money. The further things get without any kind of useful action, or questions being answered properly, the smaller the markets going to get too, until there's just Dr Bob, Eddie and a couple of engineers having a whip round to start the AAPU.
As to VTST's income, its dropping off year by year and will soon level out where everyone else is. Sure, when it was flying and lots of staff were employed, and volunteers manning stalls at every show in the country it was going to make money, and it needed to in order to fly - which is the point you've missed. Everyone else is doing the same, they're making what they need to keep going as was posted by the XM655 guys further up this page. The business models don't require the level of activity VTST did. For instance the Shackleton - we made enough that the aircraft pays for itself, its fuel, and allowed us to have a crack at taxying a four engined Avro aircraft - with public in attendance and on board - at a live airport...
Hang on a minute... I've got a great idea.
Brevet Cable wrote:Given that XH558 has been pretty much inaccessible for the past year, your comparison isn't really valid.
Unless you're a spotter/ aviation fan, how many people go to an aviation museum just to see a specific aircraft?
As opposed to people going to Doncaster specifically to see XH558.
You made the comparison valid when you stated "Unless people know of their existence they won't go to visit them."
. People are forgetting XH558 exists as she's been inaccesible, and they physically can't visit. Thats why they mistake other Vulcans for her. They can see them, so that must be it. Its the same mentality as the members of public that walk around the Shackleton telling their kids its a Lancaster, and it flew over Derwent last year. It isn't and didn't, yet still they come. As you say - they're not spotters/aviation fans - which brings me back to the original point that they won't identify it by serial number.
Lastly - even if access was available last year, people are more likely to visit a museum where they can get in a Vulcan for £1 without anti terrorism checks, photo ID and having to sell a kidney. Its not rocket science its just financially sound and doesn't involve trying to find everyone's passports, and control bored kids while waiting to see one aeroplane sitting serenely in a green tinged cloud at the edge of an airport.
While on comparison side most tourism leaflets for museums having a Vulcan show it prominently on the front, and you can be sure they'll look for it. With or without a serial number. Also said museum will have something interesting for the kids, room to move about, more things to look at, and no al fresco toilet arrangements.