Jaguar returning to flight?

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Jaguar returning to flight?

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Believed to be the aircraft that arrived at North Weald on Friday. Would be bloody immense if true. :shock:

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Wow. Can you imagine!?

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Quick search on Facebook suggests that XX841 is one of the most complete Jaguars ever sold by the MoD into private hands, so it seems like a good candiate for a return to flight. Pictures also suggest that it has been stored inside prior to its move to North Weald, so fingers crossed this project becomes reality! Good luck to those involved. :smile:
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I was told that they are aiming to have her "moving" in about twelve months.

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Hasn't Dr. Robert Pleming contacted them already to move it to the great idea at Doncaster?

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aviodromefriend wrote:Hasn't Dr. Robert Pleming contacted them already to move it to the great idea at Doncaster?

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I'm not seeing anything on that Facebook link, it's saying the post has been removed.

Although I'd love to see a Jaguar fly again, I can't see the CAA allowing a complex supersonic aircraft to be operated here. With the decline in classic jets, who would have the expense to operate the aircraft aswell?

Just seems a little unrealistic in this day and age. I'd love to be wrong though.

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Seems the post has been removed. :sad:

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CAA allowing a jet with after burners to fly in private hands - more likely one of these, Sus scrofa domesticus.
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Has there been any official statement on this?

The FB post ( since removed ) was just made by the haulage company who delivered the airframe to its new location, wasn't it?

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It was first mentioned by one of the marshalls at North Weald in the JetFest thread. I saw it with my own eyes at the weekend and other people have uploaded photos on Flickr, so its presence and its identity can be confirmed if you care to look.
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LN Strike Eagle wrote:It was first mentioned by one of the marshalls at North Weald in the JetFest thread. I saw it with my own eyes at the weekend and other people have uploaded photos on Flickr, so its presence and its identity can be confirmed if you care to look.


My question was whether the intention to return it to flight has been officially confirmed.

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iainpeden wrote:CAA allowing a jet with after burners to fly in private hands - more likely one of these, Sus scrofa domesticus.

This reply is a clue if I'm not mistaken? Better chance of "Et volant ante porcos" = 'Pigs will fly first!' :cuppa:

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Everyone I spoke to at the weekend said that was the intention.
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Good luck to them!

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A few years ago, in France, there were some plans also to fly a "civilian" Jaguar.
A flyable 2-seat airframe was even identified.
A former Jaguar pilot I met (he was one of those who made the daring Ouadi-Doum raid) and who was member of the team, told me that the whole thing was cancelled, due to administrative barriers ...
I hope that it will work better on your side of the Channel !

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Re the afterburner issue.........

Cant they just modify the throttle gate to stop the throttle going into the afterburners.............. :smile:
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Smog Monster wrote:Good luck to them!


Absolutely. Be great to see a Jaguar again.

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flashman8 wrote:Re the afterburner issue.........

Cant they just modify the throttle gate to stop the throttle going into the afterburners.............. :smile:

Then it would need a 20 mile runway, downhill at 45°, Earth's curvature and a hurricane force headwind to have any chance go getting airborne with min fuel.
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A few assumptions :

Assuming this is a “return to flight” and not a “return to flying condition” (so they can do fast taxying with it). Then the assumption seems to be that this for a U.K. operator needing CAA approval for an afterburner.

What if this was a “return to flight” for a foreign owner or a “return to flight” for someone like HHA for a commercial application ?

My money wouldn’t be on a return to flight in the U.K. by a civilian operator. Not sure what my money would be on though, probably a return to flying condition ( gives options - fast taxi, future sale abroad or to someone like HHA)
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I really don't want to ask this as I'm sure it's amongst the most stupid question asked on these boards, but can an after-burning jet be restricted in some way? If it can't after-burn, would that allow it to fly as a non after-burning jet and thus perhaps allow it to meet CAA requirements?

I'm quite sure the answer is no, but sadly I don't have the knowledge about jet engines to know why the answer is probably no.

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Reheat module's post, two above yours, pretty much answers your question.

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We've had civilian-owned and operated afterburning jets operating on these shores before with the SwAFHF. I don't think afterburners are the issue they're made out to be, provided the aircraft has a suitable safety record and can be maintained to the required standard.
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cg_341 wrote:Reheat module's post, two above yours, pretty much answers your question.

It certainly does. The only thing worse than a stupid question, is asking a stupid question that has only just been answered already :facepalm:

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LN Strike Eagle wrote:We've had civilian-owned and operated afterburning jets operating on these shores before with the SwAFHF. I don't think afterburners are the issue they're made out to be, provided the aircraft has a suitable safety record and can be maintained to the required standard.


The Swedes just flew to Scampton, parked and then flew home again didn't they? If AB was used for take off it would only have been over the runway. Has any civilian jet used AB in a display recently (ever?)?

I'm discounting any appearances in the Channel Islands or at seaside shows by the way.
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